From lojban+bncCNTMi7maEBCC-7HrBBoEC_3EOw@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 28 21:01:34 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PuHiF-0001P8-8O; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:01:34 -0800 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf3058436ywg.16 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:01:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=q7Uvl3osoCLDKG2jfUcRGDjozZ+Ezije9SO3k2NdDTE=; b=EsiRLq8IXUIdeiBePSIfmM+PLTWtqsp12sZLIX9JP1VDGKgjSM8NvbEGOjtpRocoPQ mqyReHplnZ7bHzA1lr/+IGqXZQkp6O6BzwzhWQMvEOwcQgd+K5wTURrsfv0hWpN412qf n6kIxBPbzOVcgB/HCc/n9dGSOeMmIlWufSqFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=KbuaROXmvNggr6vek0YDNioMi3I7OlhEAbI7bSf2xg35C6pHyDi/KHubNbsdgq8ca7 mZ2wUE0JwTnd8Sq64Ev382oxhA0+cag5Z4vDCRz5OZ9325Mw+zL+4Y0j7x/TwMdiP4Gs hTovyO8BC/KvwTzuZfefV+mhP67BQd8rYRNrM= Received: by 10.90.248.11 with SMTP id v11mr731090agh.20.1298955650472; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.138.2 with SMTP id l2ls809481agd.4.p; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.41.20 with SMTP id t20mr741485agj.4.1298955645459; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by a11g2000pro.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:00:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> X-IP: 200.56.39.216 References: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; Embedded Web Browser from: http://bsalsa.com/; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: coi ro do i mi cnino i dai ui From: Dank To: lojban X-Original-Sender: dankaivel@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi, since i see everybody here talks in english, and not lojban, i ll do the same, but i actually would prefer talking in lojban for the sake of learning lojban. By the way in twitter i will only speak lojban, =). the same goes with youtube, if someday i open an account there . So i will only speak english here , and in the begineers lojban group, to make it easier to communicate, and yep, also for make it easier to learn. Also i would like to say, that it may be interesting teaching lojban in lojban. I look forward to learn lojban =). answers: 1. rerere-reading it 2. .i 3. dank 4. la .dank. 5. what is a gadri? i like peculiar things 6. yep, thats what i mean. 7. yeah, i mean that too. 8. i know, but i miss this often. hope remember it next time. 9. well, yeah , i mean that. X. XD i dont understand this. i guess there really exist x2 E. it means empathy hapiness. sort of letting a free interpretation for the reader, whatever with empathy and hapiness. =). by the way. hello pierre, hello lindar, and if luke bergen is around, hello luke, are Go match is going good, :). also i dont like the irc channel, too much time. i prefer turnbased things, like here or twitter. So i look forward to the lojban things and lojban community, strong empathy, i mean DAISAI. =). On 28 feb, 21:54, Lindar wrote: > Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We have plenty > of questions, we've got a beginners > > 1. Please read and reread and re-reread these lessons on Lojban > . > 2. The denpabu (full-stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make > sure you do this for every vowel-starting word. > 3. Names are not capitalised; if you want to spell your name the way you do > in whatever your native language is, you must use la'o or la'oi. > 4. Names in Lojban are surrounded by dots (a rule we call 'dotside'); my > name is {la .lindar.} in Lojban. > 5. {le} is no longer the default gadri, so your use of {le} seems very > peculiar, especially at "le nu". > 6. What is a {cnino kucli}? "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ? > 7. What is a "cunso notci"? "Unpredictable note." ? > 8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation. {.ter.} is pronounced like > English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing paper'), so {.tuiter.} sounds > very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban. > 9. *{i mi ca'a cnino je'u le nu lojbo} translates to something like "I'm > actually unfamiliar to being Lojbanic.", which sounds okay in English, but > means more like, "Being Lojbanic is not familiar with me.". The unfamiliar > thing is the x1 of {cnino} and the unfamiliar thing is the x2. > X. Your past use of {cfari} is incorrect. The definition is "x1 > starts/begins.". There is no place for an agent. A more correct way to > express this is like {mi co'a broda} "I'm starting to broda.". > E. What is {dai ui} meant to indicate? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.