From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDIg7LrBBoEm_8PXQ@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 28 21:19:20 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PuHzP-0002AP-Rj; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:20 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf3588837gxk.16 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0+w8tFB4+tUJ71i0rYoK7C6op5fMXsCKUWJaRM81KiE=; b=evfjLRLquEkfk5d87sXMAfuDiO5e7A0nJ0wfKsOq57TVskxkD9fKyck9Ea2cIoNgAj BGJsbwvcwYvItA0f37haFRIzAsOek5nDNkx5bdaSI7ZzB4UR79B3qr7/I6CvxYh8EYRr YlqCrPlyQxxYxXwqV/sjxyo9nVYZSyRmN/faE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=PFmljUfqFkv8EZXhW4Ib9y/mVJtd3qLarLbNS5v3BRDIH5fcprW++j+HIu9Myi6tqY KgRXfnzDOxJCDNcBQcdEFgVqpyDj2UwT5c6WKcIeq0D+e8cBy8Pn+avnJH83072IIfjI E+ysfkbNaxUUjL+YUAkfZNpe4u+REc5BIKXxo= Received: by 10.101.96.11 with SMTP id y11mr316276anl.74.1298956744137; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls3496262ibi.2.p; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.15.194 with SMTP id l2mr1873734iba.12.1298956743026; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.15.194 with SMTP id l2mr1873732iba.12.1298956742972; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu19si1022894ibb.1.2011.02.28.21.19.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 19so4966970iwr.35 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.39.71 with SMTP id f7mr6015143ibe.182.1298956742599; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.198 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:19:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> References: <5ec7b537-16b7-43b2-bf6e-445ebaee0f79@o18g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:19:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: coi ro do i mi cnino i dai ui From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: -888834847 Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032557595638a370049d64efa0 --00032557595638a370049d64efa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Lindar wrote: > Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We have plenty > of questions, we've got a beginners > > 1. Please read and reread and re-reread these lessons on Lojban > . > 2. The denpabu (full-stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make > sure you do this for every vowel-starting word. > 3. Names are not capitalised; if you want to spell your name the way you do > in whatever your native language is, you must use la'o or la'oi. > 4. Names in Lojban are surrounded by dots (a rule we call 'dotside'); my > name is {la .lindar.} in Lojban. > 5. {le} is no longer the default gadri, so your use of {le} seems very > peculiar, especially at "le nu". > Based on his writing he learned from the CLL and/or the LFB. > 6. What is a {cnino kucli}? "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ? > I'm guessing, based on context, "new curiosities" > 7. What is a "cunso notci"? "Unpredictable note." ? > Guessing on context, "random letter" (through Twitter) > 8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation. {.ter.} is pronounced like > English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing paper'), so {.tuiter.} sounds > very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban. > Names can be whatever the namer wants them to be, unless the named has a preference. > 9. *{i mi ca'a cnino je'u le nu lojbo} translates to something like "I'm > actually unfamiliar to being Lojbanic.", which sounds okay in English, but > means more like, "Being Lojbanic is not familiar with me.". The unfamiliar > thing is the x1 of {cnino} and the unfamiliar thing is the x2. > X. Your past use of {cfari} is incorrect. The definition is "x1 > starts/begins.". There is no place for an agent. A more correct way to > express this is like {mi co'a broda} "I'm starting to broda.". > E. What is {dai ui} meant to indicate? > If anyone feels a need to reply to this, please do so in a new thread. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00032557595638a370049d64efa0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Lindar = <lindartheb= ard@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We ha= ve plenty of questions, we've got a beginners

1. Pl= ease read and reread and re-reread=A0these lessons on Lojban. 2. The denpabu (full-stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make su= re you do this for every vowel-starting word.=A0
3. Names are not capit= alised; if you want to spell your name the way you do in whatever your nati= ve language is, you must use la'o or la'oi.
6. What is a= {cnino kucli}? "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ?

I'm guessing, based on context, "new curiosities"=A0
7.= What is a "cunso notci"? "Unpredictable note." ?

Guessing on context, "random letter" (throu= gh Twitter)
=A0
8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation. {.ter.} is pronounced like = English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing paper'), so {.= tuiter.} sounds very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban.

Names can be whatever the namer wants them to be, unless the named= has a preference.
=A0
9. *{i mi ca'a cnino je= 9;u le nu lojbo} translates to something like "I'm actually unfami= liar to being Lojbanic.", which sounds okay in English, but means more= like, "Being Lojbanic is not familiar with me.". The unfamiliar = thing is the x1 of {cnino} and the unfamiliar thing is the x2.
X. Your past use of {cfari} is= incorrect. The definition is "x1 starts/begins.". There is no pl= ace for an agent. A more correct way to express this is like {mi co'a b= roda} "I'm starting to broda.".
E. What is {dai ui} meant to i= ndicate?

If anyone feels a need to reply= to this, please do so in a new thread.

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mu'= o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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