From lojban+bncCNTMi7maEBDeqLLrBBoEJvw8uw@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 28 22:38:37 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PuJE9-0007eX-UM; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:37 -0800 Received: by vxc33 with SMTP id 33sf3003319vxc.16 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=i0GvnfZrTWeCR7sbh0IDiiJ98wz08gspPr297f7U78A=; b=cN/8uo43iqMriYbHLEkiALERjo1+TwHMAkAiLU5PsGG3CUQ1wxbdi3LuZfH32cVRiY 44ZuGP1oSeP6++vVyD+CZc0mXrImaOunA5O7IlkQn8SyXJDZ7MTRI/04QHU3kIksVxtb BR87zIV3vfVhLD2EQJTXi0UpKOy5Eh1d6Oiwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3MJt7yR+Ke9tp3Smd4chPIh3f1relGBJ5u7aAgijJyTRAmqyRJGN6zh4T/x91t3uFm 9jrrM2p8cteUldwXjexANMABytNOgWX2pMuBnbRGPQJ2YIHIRZ8MUe+fABDJ82kokUbF dsslCi11gErpTeryAy0RZgY7fHoRCJ/xsTtu0= Received: by 10.220.175.202 with SMTP id bb10mr636677vcb.36.1298961502318; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.53.138 with SMTP id m10ls2308267vcg.2.p; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.177.71 with SMTP id bh7mr641236vcb.2.1298961501531; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by u6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> X-IP: 200.56.39.216 References: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; Embedded Web Browser from: http://bsalsa.com/; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <98133af8-9b96-4e0d-b4f9-5da196dcb489@u6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: coi ro do i mi cnino i dai ui From: Dank To: lojban X-Original-Sender: dankaivel@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, since i see everybody here talks in english, and not lojban, i ll do the same, but i actually would prefer talking in lojban for the sake of learning lojban. By the way in twitter i will only speak lojban, =). the same goes with youtube, if someday i open an account there . So i will only speak english here , and in the begineers lojban group, to make it easier to communicate, and yep, also for make it easier to learn. Also i would like to say, that it may be interesting teaching lojban in lojban.( i have seen people learning other languages in that other languages). I look forward to learn lojban =). answers: 1. rerere-reading it 2. .i 3. dank 4. la .dank. 5. what is a gadri? i like peculiar things 6. yep, thats what i mean. 7. yeah, i mean that too. 8. i know, but i miss this often. hope remember it next time. 9. well, yeah , i mean that. X. XD i dont understand this. i guess there really exist x2 E. it means empathy hapiness. sort of letting a free interpretation for the reader, whatever with empathy and hapiness. =). by the way. hello pierre, hello lindar, and if luke bergen is around, hello luke, our Go match is going good, :). By the way, i dont like the irc channel, too much time. i prefer turnbased things, like here or twitter. So i look forward to the lojban things and lojban community, strong empathy, i mean DAISAI. =). OK CHANGE OF OPINION: you can be thankfull i answer the above thing in english, but i did it to also add the next message. (sort of "the whole english message can fit here", hehe. ). ( actually i realized this after writing the above, but well , it can be used the other way around) I REALLY WONT TALK IN ENGLISH , beacause thats one of the points to learn a new language, USE IT, and theres not too many places to talk lojban , so its sort of a waste talk in english in one of the few places where you could talk in lojban, hehe. I know this is very extreme, but as some people say, use it or lose it. So you can expect this may be my unique message i will write in english, and i decided to write it in english beacause i can copy and send it to whoever ask me something about why am i talking only in lojban. But well, dont worry, i am not really very strict, you can talk to me in english , spanish, portuguese, french, and whatever language the google translate can traduce XD , but I WILL ANSWER IN LOJBAN. Actually i am very flexible and amicable friend, :). Is just that went you go to another country in wich people dont speak english, you should try to learn the local language to really have a new experience, otherwise theres no point in travel abroad and keeping in the hotel in wich you feel safe only talking in english, nooo, you have to explore and try new things, ( well theres nothing wrong to talk in english abroad, if you go abroad for business or work, is ok, you travel for the deal or whatever; but if you go to enjoy, you should enjoy it 100% new experience, well its a matter of opinion, do whatever you like). Also the other point, is that lojbos as community , needs use it more, well who will use it if not someone who knows it XD , thats common sense, i only have one month learning lojban, but no one need to be very clever to realize the "USE IT" thing, beacause this is applicable to all languages. Also i would like to say that all this lojban experience is very interesting, and i look forward to lojbotavla with all of you . mu'o. UICAI. On 28 feb, 21:54, Lindar wrote: > Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We have plenty > of questions, we've got a beginners > > 1. Please read and reread and re-reread these lessons on Lojban > . > 2. The denpabu (full-stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make > sure you do this for every vowel-starting word. > 3. Names are not capitalised; if you want to spell your name the way you do > in whatever your native language is, you must use la'o or la'oi. > 4. Names in Lojban are surrounded by dots (a rule we call 'dotside'); my > name is {la .lindar.} in Lojban. > 5. {le} is no longer the default gadri, so your use of {le} seems very > peculiar, especially at "le nu". > 6. What is a {cnino kucli}? "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ? > 7. What is a "cunso notci"? "Unpredictable note." ? > 8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation. {.ter.} is pronounced like > English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing paper'), so {.tuiter.} sounds > very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban. > 9. *{i mi ca'a cnino je'u le nu lojbo} translates to something like "I'm > actually unfamiliar to being Lojbanic.", which sounds okay in English, but > means more like, "Being Lojbanic is not familiar with me.". The unfamiliar > thing is the x1 of {cnino} and the unfamiliar thing is the x2. > X. Your past use of {cfari} is incorrect. The definition is "x1 > starts/begins.". There is no place for an agent. A more correct way to > express this is like {mi co'a broda} "I'm starting to broda.". > E. What is {dai ui} meant to indicate? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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