From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBC6rKvqBBoEeSoBrQ@googlegroups.com Thu Feb 03 08:22:35 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl1x0-0001z7-JN; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:35 -0800 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11sf911166gyb.16 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=k8d+InlMxRyx3ykTU2arnExZ7rj166F113Imv+h0Y6c=; b=n84+KPzRcxQBzlGOYgMcVazUfH1+FffaU3Zj5R1kMHhml0bd8cpTsaEzaX02KZKokd /1tSmHqZms3VmZmQmNl2gwpzAFymUz8b++rxiz2xj/eB4qCcCW9JVWGwNsNK4G9sYSQ0 w+iznU0ursL1XLq0gqCXOPcoiuluX6DCyp7Uw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=hXqSg+GI1oLIrJgZqo2fWQO4Y3aNrAiE89zwizLONdOZwQDl9zBXEUngjC5TD1UhY8 9Uw/cM89M2QjEPwbP6//o6s3eFpMJ40wXvw/SMWdIEaa0CyoV8FB3RJngYTqt2ZNpV/T DIEnLppM4ZZdSvG2VqJ1axGQpf3l5dbfdFIWw= Received: by 10.101.176.22 with SMTP id d22mr400712anp.0.1296750138623; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.26.21 with SMTP id 21ls387557anz.2.p; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.162.16 with SMTP id p16mr903414ano.43.1296750137439; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.162.16 with SMTP id p16mr903413ano.43.1296750137418; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw0-f49.google.com (mail-gw0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10si326666anh.8.2011.02.03.08.22.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.49 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=74.125.83.49; Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so551333gwj.36 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.111.33 with SMTP id v21mr21979853yhg.64.1296750137044; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-165-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.165.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a50sm590243yhd.0.2011.02.03.08.22.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:22:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:22:11 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Idea: Levels Message-ID: <20110203162210.GB56439@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <9167227.622.1296721774635.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@przz17> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.49 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Where are you Keys? uses the ACTFL Proficiency Guidelines[1], which has 9 grades. They ported this proficiency scale to use the terminology of the game: http://whereareyourkeys.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/wayk-proficiency-scale.pdf -Alan 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTFL_Proficiency_Guidelines On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:58:20AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > I feel like 6 levels is too few, unless there are sublevels within each > level. > > Also, if we're treating this like a game, it may pay to think up fun > achievements. e.g. ask a question on irc, answer a question on irc, start > an argument on irc. > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Lindar <[1]lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think this is a brilliant idea, and definitely ties into previously > mentioned ideas regarding having 'levels' like an RPG. The obvious > reward is saying that you're a level X Lojbanist so you can read level X > text. I think this would be a fascinating project. I would say six tiers > would be a good amount, and each tier should have a vocabulary list with > certain selma'o in each one. By tier 3 the speaker should stop using > English names (like 'terminator') and use Lojban grammar names (like > {fa'orma'o}). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to [2]lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [3]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > [4]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com > 2. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > 3. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > 4. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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