From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRD1rrXqBBoEEXahZQ@googlegroups.com Sat Feb 05 05:58:30 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Plief-0006af-C7; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:29 -0800 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf3229811wwb.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j3FXjRiIByILvbKEcwFZ1TeVmSsfjKMiilo10NzrRik=; b=N22RGJylzZH6OJROI4c4dJ8pHAPEgSSAA3cYeJp0hkEz3sSSddtZz+IbhVpvQOzFVB 8Q3OFSsL7kF078MM+UHgv8mE07KV2vFRA0xI6gdS6x6ghLJOkUzZZtbZL9anZ9fxSQ28 8s+CgnE1tLPA2pyn6zNpEhjyoYu8OTov22/iM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lLYyJTKQrjt6hRHcAIgT5Vc2Cq3G8m4t9T0LbjlCkG7bq/T31ysAeyCLm7njkWrVVB b5y0e4vlG0GJrRE1EeUGXQClOpaSHNTZeM4rpvy2dXgfZHHYJ+nQQSmPaAtLek85kQX0 Urx9gtP9xDr4TVzDabEIo0aXY2zznxpYXMxbk= Received: by 10.216.172.73 with SMTP id s51mr2603036wel.27.1296914293008; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.102.89 with SMTP id f25ls1521631wbo.0.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.127.207 with SMTP id h15mr654631wbs.4.1296914290956; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.127.207 with SMTP id h15mr654630wbs.4.1296914290939; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f175.google.com (mail-wy0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2si321838wbc.3.2011.02.05.05.58.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40so3106964wyb.6 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.133.11 with SMTP id d11mr411563wbt.193.1296914289598; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.54.10 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 05:58:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110205070102.GI8388@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:58:09 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Error in DAG-CLL? 4.6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn wro= te: > > Also, how difficult would it be in the parser to give {bu} precedence? Not very difficult, but why should "bu" have precedence over "zei"? They both have very similar functions, they take words from any word class and turn them into a phrase that behaves almost like a word of classes BY and BRIVLA respectively. > I > feel wrong claiming that both {.abu} and {xy} are letterals if they don't > behave the same way.=A0 Just my two cents. But it would be just as wrong to claim that "na'e zei .a" and "pavyseljirna" are both lujvo if they don't behave the same way (when followed by BU, for example). The way to turn the three words na'e + .a + bu into a lujvo is: "na'e zei .a zei bu" No matter what precedence rule you choose for magic words, you will inevitably get odd results sometimes, so you might as well choose a very simple precedence rule like "first come first served" so you don't have to start deciding whether bu trumps zei, or zei trumps zo, or zo trumps si, or si trumps zoi, or what. Just process them always as they come. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.