From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhCo7LvqBBoEhNce6w@googlegroups.com Sun Feb 06 11:27:52 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmAGx-0006jy-4c; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:51 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf2712006gxk.16 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jhzqpqeW/MCG4rXwH+0JvWoDKIuq21OSYe28vd3KH0s=; b=m1XldCWEjAmqPLbLScJZIIN+6aPC6TVq2sEGrgdPqM93MhH2BERpgZi1Zi/wdV3Q5T ggBSwtlcoogTsdwkE4CQeL+BDE7AL1mzZmK0IFAmjtnIbK9Hm2j02WxYruhymIgozJNl Yd8RVyjtfHGvlJ2aDXgmNAxjDAT64x+Ap4tU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=FK/P7l/lYp4tMMh/dLRh7fKece2zuSp73ohK/P1MVHhhfsrMvEHuyND/03RmziVxsu aAl71bzrZpKlta7IuQwfHyDP0EoXI4IQPcaPs3HRlS8ccJ8gNdtvM/KXjZqDven5Fq7F jkU4ko7lfizxM6pvV8AyCM0v5ikcK9VqYofgU= Received: by 10.236.108.34 with SMTP id p22mr88653yhg.6.1297020456444; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:36 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.57.97 with SMTP id b33ls2403327ibh.0.p; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.226.66 with SMTP id iv2mr253053icb.98.1297020455376; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.226.66 with SMTP id iv2mr253052icb.98.1297020455323; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4si428357ict.0.2011.02.06.11.27.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so4982303iwn.7 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.241.6 with SMTP id lc6mr17301876icb.480.1297020454039; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.166.202 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Backcounting + poi From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305642576df323049ba21b76 --20cf305642576df323049ba21b76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I understand that {di'u noi glibau} refers to the last utterance and simply conveys the additional information that it was spoken in English. I wonder, though, about {di'u poi glibau}. Does it simply refer to the last English utterance (useful, but I don't think back-counting rules allow that)? Or does it does it logically necessitate that the last utterance have been in English? -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf305642576df323049ba21b76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand that {di'u noi glibau} refers to the last utterance and si= mply conveys the additional information that it was spoken in English.
I= wonder, though, about {di'u poi glibau}.=A0 Does it simply refer to th= e last English utterance (useful, but I don't think back-counting rules= allow that)?=A0 Or does it does it logically necessitate that the last utt= erance have been in English?

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