From lojban+bncCO2dsrjkARCm7bzqBBoEAWjsew@googlegroups.com Sun Feb 06 16:03:03 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmEZF-0001XY-T2; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:03:02 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf2133972vws.16 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2mtHFfzT/8Zqad6uKiq6e63wRFZEGGwnIUw382W39H4=; b=iFvoCrz25bXXby8Rznqfxvm1OMeENqavhSkldjy8HWyeI/1OVkRKBuiLg8Hsd13vCS Lnfobpf2i6FIoUWhVMLie5kk23Uk15/8ZO0QVZWHec02MJLdKo9X8vAMxDcIhoDL40/h 449/n2gmWnxGh3cKhMJYFtHEE9I1lRdc8iurM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=NflWlRqOE0To23mBWi2jEYxodazA7UpfsMDLxX1U1SiT/VglPE50gN3kxdQaaWuhQb 0Zgnml/+X/2FP+85EIfKJr60FukYgcp0hAmhyIxLDgiklyy5ceHVBoRzdJv3EY7Rk2Bq WW7V+32AdiiOtoruUpPbv1IOqtrcoF8ckIVlQ= Received: by 10.220.199.193 with SMTP id et1mr969581vcb.5.1297036966125; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.89.83 with SMTP id d19ls384754vcm.5.p; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.185.197 with SMTP id cp5mr1124856vcb.5.1297036965376; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.185.197 with SMTP id cp5mr1124855vcb.5.1297036965356; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pi.meson.org (pi.meson.org [96.56.207.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id a9si598404vby.5.2011.02.06.16.02.45; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) client-ip=96.56.207.26; Received: (qmail 25639 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2011 00:02:44 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 7 Feb 2011 00:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4D4F36A4.8030501@kli.org> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:02:44 -0500 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [non]Dictionary form of lujvo References: <201102061646.20030.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201102061646.20030.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: mark@kli.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) smtp.mail=mark@kli.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/06/2011 04:46 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 06 February 2011 16:02:10 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> For example, I like {tolcliva} better than I like {tolyli'a}. Is there a >> convention stating that I should use the latter? > There's a convention saying that each form gets a score and the scores > determine which one is the canonical form. All the forms are equally valid; I > prefer "tolcliva" too. I once used "ci'onrai" for scansion reasons. > > Pierre IMO, for a true "dictionary" form, one it's filed under alphabetically, you should use the fully expanded form, with all rafsi in 4- or 5-letter form... which doesn't apply here, since cmavo don't have 4-letter rafsi. But in general with gismu. So ci'onrai would be citnytraji ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.