From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRDllr3qBBoEo0GjEg@googlegroups.com Sun Feb 06 17:31:33 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmFwv-0007gY-6n; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:32 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf2827706gxk.16 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pOmKcNn4OrTYWyYwDDafzHxuEjzojbboxchay+w0spc=; b=PFPt2+cZnTOzIAIV93teQyK6iYdzxanIdqPhLR+ec8QpXPL43VN3bJ/S4WcEYFESFP tsSLXlIW3s2PK5NZKtb6tUrOLZhtRQFmxQVIisIZTMXN4B/HPmTQmPw9E9fvNuCg6I5d 9+xZngQl6tx6OBFJtUyzBBYhZHdl1FDZIkIHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Vwp/IniQ0b8YH0wEgl1BrUg3qedzIrWusaigSd095NfAb33sjUyVXAg2ZzzWPeqYL/ x04xOAGTrY0He9qLYYNA+HY1VUySy9SoDDGlvdO8AnOjKyrvEOLNkN6miw/Nwq6p9M9H fFJWDPVbPmSsQz1Ejq9VDhcgc2Crq2tEwEMBk= Received: by 10.91.43.20 with SMTP id v20mr1147318agj.6.1297042277169; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.23.15 with SMTP id 15ls973054agw.2.p; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.170.8 with SMTP id x8mr290093yao.24.1297042276450; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.170.8 with SMTP id x8mr290091yao.24.1297042276422; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id m69si395291yha.8.2011.02.06.17.31.15; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.122; Received: (qmail 61123 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2011 01:31:15 -0000 Message-ID: <904573.59341.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UXP4YrUVM1nf_MybkH98mWBaalEgEaa6_qOyW6Bo715_crR perygeUVssm8wFGIVbO6IM3fYK4nH5FRVALanDx77TKbB6ZTzjbrqITGXc_c q_UqhR3A_ADINLl92NQYeXvLTK255kdyhDCIuCncC5IjheZGuAsfn53U0RVA lKbKuF4uEOENx_8pqqOSpQRtmzxR7keBKJDxd_j7RtvkvhwHtPpFFmnYTMSA GuYawlRzWstKpjEHid2d00r126BNSjm.miMaJgW76_9.j83jXdoqZbblj2vX hORyuGV0wOEZTl09T0Acly_wF8D9hz7WtvVhNMYBDpukgKoNju3M1DCFXBl_ 90jEAck0E.O.MfMc_Lg-- Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 17:31:14 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <201102061646.20030.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4D4F36A4.8030501@kli.org> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] [non]Dictionary form of lujvo To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <4D4F36A4.8030501@kli.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hell, list 'em all, with cross references to the fullest form, where all the details are spelled out. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark E. Shoulson To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 6:02:44 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] [non]Dictionary form of lujvo On 02/06/2011 04:46 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 06 February 2011 16:02:10 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> For example, I like {tolcliva} better than I like {tolyli'a}. Is there a >> convention stating that I should use the latter? > There's a convention saying that each form gets a score and the scores > determine which one is the canonical form. All the forms are equally valid; I > prefer "tolcliva" too. I once used "ci'onrai" for scansion reasons. > > Pierre IMO, for a true "dictionary" form, one it's filed under alphabetically, you should use the fully expanded form, with all rafsi in 4- or 5-letter form... which doesn't apply here, since cmavo don't have 4-letter rafsi. But in general with gismu. So ci'onrai would be citnytraji ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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