From lojban+bncCMqBsa7nERDe1L3qBBoEeM_emw@googlegroups.com Sun Feb 06 19:43:42 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmI0p-0004JA-7B; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:42 -0800 Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20sf2866605gwb.16 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0p3qDcdcYoJWGthcgP9wiCvOBTqqdBDlLx39wpG4XqM=; b=TUaQX+dT+F0G77XKbmJ+X8EIS9NbWLgiphgRThCGRtMC5QiQ3tIfZZPX2YV1HRDtmD cP4IBVTzSGpsQdg/C58EbfWf7qUs7F3O7/8z+xZIM/IXAX3tgNstAQzjczxxKM6SxpW0 M8FLGmbT5/h5wbGpXd9sbyXbPLFVyHrxt3+2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=N7p30IURx8d1NfohkN3P+RiUsySR9KfPEWw/dqgAlWqPbltxtBZZ/AbUtuno40Hd3B lQFuBAuph5zUzBPcTWVLVrFMLMxCIWzXeCv2mfe4SywjRh3Q/7nnGSa/3gbFjnYevsqX koZPevGWYMDDxJnSI3WSPlj/RW7e500g1Y2O0= Received: by 10.100.151.8 with SMTP id y8mr79384and.10.1297050206640; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:26 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls4861590ibb.1.p; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.66 with SMTP id s2mr6573286ibd.5.1297050205821; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.66 with SMTP id s2mr6573285ibd.5.1297050205773; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu19si769311ibb.5.2011.02.06.19.43.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of oges007@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.171; Received: by iyh42 with SMTP id 42so1132268iyh.16 for ; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.144.70 with SMTP id y6mr16856472ibu.36.1297050204573; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.25.132 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:42:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110207031019.GB63098@alice.local> References: <20110207031019.GB63098@alice.local> From: Ross Ogilvie Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:42:54 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zo .y.bu cmavo lo zo bu jonai zo by xu To: lojban X-Original-Sender: oges007@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of oges007@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=oges007@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c2a1ab31095049ba9080d --0016e64c2a1ab31095049ba9080d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 la'e ko'a zo'u tu'a lo mapli cu natfe lo se xusra .i mi na djuno lo du'u makau drani .i pe'i la'e ko'e plixau zmadu mu'o mi'e ros. The opening of Magic+Words asserts that ybu is BU near the beginning, but the example given below contradicts that broda .y. bu = broda + the letter y In short, I don't know. Certainly being able to talk about the letter y easily seems more useful than being allowed to yyyyy in the middle of a bu construction. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > .i la'e ko'a xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo bu > .i la'e ko'e xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo by > .i ma drani > > .i ko'a goi zoi .url. http://lojban.org/tiki/Magic+Words .url. > .i ko'e goi zoi .url. > http://lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm .url. > > .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. > > .i zoi .fanva. The PEG Morphology file asserts that {ybu} is selma'o > BY, but Magic Words claims it is selma'o BU. Which is correct? .fanva. > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e64c2a1ab31095049ba9080d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable la'e ko'a zo'u tu'a lo mapli cu natfe lo se xusra

.i= mi na djuno lo du'u makau drani .i pe'i la'e ko'e plixau z= madu

mu'o mi'e ros.

The opening of Magic+Words assert= s that ybu is BU near the beginning, but the example given below contradict= s that
broda .y. bu =3D broda + the letter y

In short, I don't know. Ce= rtainly being able to talk about the letter y easily seems more useful than= being allowed to yyyyy in the middle of a bu construction.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
.i la'e ko'a xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo bu
.i la'e ko'e xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo by
.i ma drani

.i ko'a goi zoi .url. http://lojban.org/tiki/Magic+Words .url.
.i ko'e goi zoi .url. http://lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Se= ction%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm .url.

.i mu'o mi'e .alyn.

.i zoi .fanva. The PEG Morphology file asserts that {ybu} is selma'o BY, but Magic Words claims it is selma'o BU. =A0Which is correct? .fanv= a.
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