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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] zo .y.bu cmavo lo zo bu jonai zo by xu Message-ID: <20110207134143.GA64322@86.sub-69-96-208.myvzw.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110207031019.GB63098@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.172 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 02:42:54PM +1100, Ross Ogilvie wrote: > la'e ko'a zo'u tu'a lo mapli cu natfe lo se xusra > > .i mi na djuno lo du'u makau drani .i pe'i la'e ko'e plixau zmadu > > mu'o mi'e ros. > > The opening of Magic+Words asserts that ybu is BU near the beginning, but > the example given below contradicts that > broda .y. bu = broda + the letter y > .i mi jimpe lo mupli be fa lo cusku be lu pamoi valsi zo broda .i remoi valsi zo ybu li'u .i zoi .fanva. I believe this example is trying to say "first broda, then the letter y." .fanva. .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. > In short, I don't know. Certainly being able to talk about the letter y > easily seems more useful than being allowed to yyyyy in the middle of a bu > construction. > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM, .alyn.post. > <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > .i la'e ko'a xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo bu > .i la'e ko'e xusra lo du'u zo .y.bu cmavo be zo by > .i ma drani > > .i ko'a goi zoi .url. [2]http://lojban.org/tiki/Magic+Words .url. > .i ko'e goi zoi .url. > [3]http://lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm .url. > > .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. > > .i zoi .fanva. The PEG Morphology file asserts that {ybu} is selma'o > BY, but Magic Words claims it is selma'o BU. Which is correct? .fanva. > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to [4]lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [5]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > [6]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org > 2. http://lojban.org/tiki/Magic+Words > 3. http://lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+PEG+Morphology+Algorithm > 4. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > 5. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > 6. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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