From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARD4-cHqBBoECaTHog@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 07 15:15:21 2011 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PmaIe-0005jZ-FY; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:20 -0800 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf1864043pxi.16 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jOu+0RYZqPv+QLBzXn9i2c73k5Lx18pq/9y/XVh8FQo=; b=rl4KqREHDc4Wr6Jwgjc+oEefFSVHk4fUt8Xp7Efdw2nBT6LxyROkPFNc2orFp485Eu IXCqdrkWH0qvJCmcsJxo6/RbpBzVvfXC2ym3my417MKkquEaAtzkiv0bTKkm4e7tt1Fu qK5nY3mCk7mFCftICS+gHhGmSicMteMFS1V+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cmkLRlL7jwSvO/bh9rVnQQ55r+JF4gg5rvLMqeuplqpr1wX/7189VNZD30qTF4UI76 GUapwhpdX1gUmoSJX2no+q8AXUS4jyvZt092N/P0CMx0AvJpbOvrkeFG99vSJ7cmDfsR ygIDQWtzSnk5RJYD372bG4qAPGa3hxdsQtWkQ= Received: by 10.142.218.21 with SMTP id q21mr36789wfg.10.1297120504430; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.201.17 with SMTP id y17ls6040450wff.1.p; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.131.21 with SMTP id e21mr3326340wfd.69.1297120503389; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.131.21 with SMTP id e21mr3326339wfd.69.1297120503364; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com (mail-pw0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i15si4308475wfg.1.2011.02.07.15.15.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.41; Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so1126549pwj.28 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.43.20 with SMTP id q20mr623831wfq.23.1297120502095; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.68.21 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:15:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:15:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {ki'ai} From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With no other context, I don't think there's enough information for me to decide on a good meaning. The context of Lojbanists that speak English makes Luke's example intelligible, but it might not be if speaking to a Lojbanist that didn't speak English. On 2/7/11, Remo Dentato wrote: > Assume you and me were native lojban speaker, you did something and I > commented with {.i ki'ai zan}. > > What do you think I meant? > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I've been using it like {ki'ai zoi .cin. AAARRRRGGGGHHHH .cin.} >> >> I think it's kind of like -> ki'ai : attitudinals :: fi'o : modals. Take >> the next thing that comes and (trust me) take it as an attitudinal. >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: >> >>> I can't really get how {ki'ai} (http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ki%27ai) is >>> intended to be used. >>> >>> It seems useful to be able to create a nonce interjection but I'm not >>> sure >>> I understand what it really means. >>> >>> Any clue? >>> >>> remod >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.