From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC5w6rsBBoEgm3jJg@googlegroups.com Wed Mar 23 18:43:37 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2ZaI-0007CK-1k; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:37 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf7131582fxm.16 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=uGCvPc0Yy2hAww7wTEgOumC91628ekI4CsCZSyzeVz8=; b=e6YhSx8FXONKXFBvt0qYy/pByZCPgvbzFgYf1A0DfRwzbtADtB64qflIytA1+lEQGh xXRT0I41WR1UgTbr8BnSBldvfd1y8LaeKofGFzf6FCAtM/F+l7OQfj6oexosDWG2TiXo Df1ex3WYyasFQywmeBULCPIZWFkHB59fpsxTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=dMaJ6x6i+uCXEoALmrVxOYCmdgW63bZZnGzAaY4AvziFyhinl8Ia69soaYI+X0zvvh slXnnrjEc4qeLFpScm18JzmdgAOXeiShE9xSZJ0UbX6RhIHY9FoYQsdo9NMNDCLRZBO7 GY0uCDbtWJyvrwoU2Q2DzjeW+p/+DxT/qgUuY= Received: by 10.223.69.76 with SMTP id y12mr1113274fai.15.1300931001608; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.15.10 with SMTP id i10ls70961faa.1.p; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.148.13 with SMTP id n13mr739851fav.12.1300931000561; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.148.13 with SMTP id n13mr739850fav.12.1300931000535; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f50.google.com (mail-fx0-f50.google.com [209.85.161.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si767759fav.0.2011.03.23.18.43.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.50; Received: by mail-fx0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so9699325fxm.37 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.14.137 with SMTP id g9mr4074516faa.8.1300931000389; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.201 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:43:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I'm sure I've missed it but, "ko" for "You and Me" ... From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747af3e27d090049f309a71 --00151747af3e27d090049f309a71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ko is not inherently singular, in the same way that English "you" isn't. (In the old days, "you" was plural, and "thou" was singular, but "thou" fell out of use. None of the pro-sumti are inherently singular or plural. do is "the listener(s)", mi is "the speaker(s)", etc. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Frank wrote: > coi rodo .i > > I am sure it's in the CLL or L4B or maybe even this archives of this group > but tcesteba if I can find how to say the multiple Person equivalent of > "ko". For example, I can say, "ko klama le xotli" to say, "Make it so You > go to the hotel" or "Go to the hotel". However, how would I say, "Let's go > to the hotel"? I suppose in this case I am saying, "Make it so You and I go > to the hotel". If it is in CLL or L4B or the archives, by all means, say so > and I'll go look again. (And I apologize in advance if I have just > completely missed it.) > > ki'e .i mi'e xuinkrbin. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00151747af3e27d090049f309a71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ko is not inherently singular, in the same way that English "you"= isn't. (In the old days, "you" was plural, and "thou&qu= ot; was singular, but "thou" fell out of use.

None of the = pro-sumti are inherently singular or plural. do is "the listener(s)&qu= ot;, mi is "the speaker(s)", etc.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Frank <frankdmartinez= @gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo .i

I am sure it's in the CLL or L4B or mayb= e even this archives of this group but tcesteba if I can find how to say th= e multiple Person equivalent of "ko". =A0For example, I can say, = "ko klama le xotli" to say, "Make it so You go to the hotel&= quot; or "Go to the hotel". =A0However, how would I say, "Le= t's go to the hotel"? =A0I suppose in this case I am saying, "= ;Make it so You and I go to the hotel". =A0If it is in CLL or L4B or t= he archives, by all means, say so and I'll go look again. =A0(And I apo= logize in advance if I have just completely missed it.)

ki'e .i=A0mi'e xuinkrbin.

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