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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: red&white Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Thoughts on the website and resources Message-ID: <20110330181931.GA9532@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com, red&white References: <90c2d5f7-a821-4aa9-8a57-1b3e96d2b0e0@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <20110330171905.GR21357@digitalkingdom.org> <518110.16431.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <518110.16431.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.214.174 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:07:32AM -0700, A. Piekarski wrote: > >=20 > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:34:45AM -0700, red&white wrote: > > > The front website is very helpful but I noticed that a lot of the > > > resources are disjointed and many are outdated. For example, the > > > audio section has lots of links, some are now dead=A0 or > > > unavailable. Perhaps it would be best to centralise all the links > > > and clear up the dead links? > >=20 > > It's a wiki; feel free.=A0 My apologies if that seems abrupt, but > > we're all unpaid volunteers here, and most of us have very full > > personal lives.=A0 The reason that sort of thing isn't getting done is > > (tautologically) because no-one's doing it, and not because anyone > > thinks it's a bad idea or something. > >=20 > > You may want to talk to totus, aka A. PIEKARSKI; he's the one who > > does most of the site upkeep sort of stuff these days. >=20 >=20 > There are just too many pages for anyone person to maintain. > I focus my attention on what I refer to as the 'marketing' pages -=20 > those that are likely to be seen by casual visitors or 'maybe- > I'm-interested' visitors. >=20 > So I review and update (as best I can) the following p[ages: > - Home (in English and Lojban) > - News (in English and Lojban) > - About > - What Others Say > - FAQ > - Learning > - The LLG > - Contact Us >=20 > I've also been looking for volunteers to translate the Home page=20 > into other big languages. That's just about done, though we still need=20 > someone for Arabic. >=20 > And, yes, it would be just great if some else 'took ownership'=20 > of some of the other pages. >=20 > mu'o mi'e .totus. For my part, I curate the grammar-related resources on lojban.org, this being the home page for that effort: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Grammar This part of the wiki is still a mess; I'd like to think I'm improving it. I'm in the middle of a particularly large project, our so-called "Magic Words," and much of the work I've been doing recently isn't user-visible yet. Getting this section of the wiki in shape is really all I can make time for, but it is also the section I care most about and really want to see made better. There are many sections on the website that could use curation, the "See Also" section of the Grammar page 7 that need as much love as the grammar-related resources. If you see something that you can make better, please do so! -Alan --=20 .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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