From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxD8idXsBBoELTFkvg@googlegroups.com Thu Mar 31 20:22:54 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5Uwi-0004IQ-WF; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:54 -0700 Received: by vxc33 with SMTP id 33sf1104082vxc.16 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=nc/3mKGEmeGjtmipJny8rqSqTV6cypAXyebqxaqZRzE=; b=AossBvSs2TgC+4cb33kEGYCsijHfBKFFY6hQM3xJ1HZbr6Z4osZyr7hIg8lh60x2A4 Y+ykalkve54M34LDaqwKwVhbqubvBWG4GshbJq4C0hJyNciBrFkp0HXIdH1r3oSN26Cp 46mfejQUWJJeBLonmiDHyL9SaylQX8pjvagME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=nuu6fdsqxge9GNBuNtXKsvHJQq9XaGoiQEAmepdv6EH2529mcMtWpRGULtBLCbc9DL 28I9qd2l7Ky/KORd7kpBNyUTitotIRHVpYlCfQ3/1npv0o+yIMlzo4kcv78WooVssIhi 5fYRCm3ALpPhvDP+m8I7G16ELhAgxDjR6CWOA= Received: by 10.220.116.203 with SMTP id n11mr417286vcq.45.1301628156681; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.113.208 with SMTP id b16ls508088vcq.0.p; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.201.204 with SMTP id fb12mr804906vcb.16.1301628155869; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.201.204 with SMTP id fb12mr804905vcb.16.1301628155852; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si152061vcx.4.2011.03.31.20.22.34; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ToWar1fa9ljTHbeJIRNQycBnYxCRNi5M/11QAwRcJ6A= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=aTGHTXddJxu7tvqDfCsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:42184] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 03/BC-29678-AF4459D4; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 03:22:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B97A1422E for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:22:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] music terms Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:22:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <735642.73474.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201103291206.38102.phma@phma.optus.nu> <799903.9184.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <799903.9184.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201103312322.21860.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 31 March 2011 14:41:51 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > How would one translate: > > > "Beethoven's String Quartet in C# minor Op 131 " > > > > I don't know all the details of naming classical music pieces, but here's > > a try: "lo cistrxaioliano be li cy ma'u be'o ke mosyjgita vomei pacipamoi > > bo selfinti be la betoven." > > What about major vs. minor (keys)? "major" is "cistrxioniano". Those two ought to be shortened, as they are used more often than, e.g., miksolidi. About major and minor chords, I don't know. They're not listed in the page. German calls them "dur" and "moll" (hard and soft, from Romance, as distinct from "hart" and "weich"). I'm thinking maybe "pi'irto'agri" and "dilcyto'agri", since they are formed by respectively multiplying the bass tonic and dividing the soprano dominant by 4, 5, and 6. By the way, whoever coined the word for "chord" on the page got "sarji" and "sraji" mixed up. Does it make more sense to say that the notes of a chord support or are vertical? Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.