From lojban+bncCPbmlvCwBhD6hd_rBBoEqgR-JA@googlegroups.com Wed Mar 09 10:12:26 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PxNry-0007eB-47; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:12:26 -0800 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf753764ywg.16 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:12:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TihGRr1O52P02haM/bEoHHQYDfd5s6rKuM48fBpJmdA=; b=WLVPaXEPQIfPNIQnKXQ8BW9cXJnThbaEZvcBL91eC+FnXdadaihj9NpJfVvCa4KsaQ ZT2kKqG3Ls2cRGs8It7SVMrbsD1EXQGDGH1CpbGEoGS6L22UJLEny2ovFUE4bfHsrx+u prT4W1Gw3zQ1I9WCCvWLiRWjGYXBUtR2j3Dw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JKa5SULoMpipYdxXfjjX79nNOOGYWDPRHT3Ke51sCAHIHvq7VHZjhxomglDBY/wG1I q6nXlgxu88p/pvhAjkR6zx/Nmewfclkv/JsA2qeaTCeKX8vqBHH6RsZ+Rchdfd/+LY0C 6rIQke++JKyLrPE3O03rzcrB8ZR6QY40n5d74= Received: by 10.150.31.15 with SMTP id e15mr616094ybe.70.1299694330418; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.149.3 with SMTP id b3ls567964ybo.2.p; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.215.6 with SMTP id n6mr3264833ybg.47.1299694329648; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.11.27 with SMTP id 27mr654597agk.56.1299630711871; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:31:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:31:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201103071823.42942.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-IP: 67.86.94.107 References: <107229.22351.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <147158.87758.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201103071823.42942.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) rekonq Safari/533.3,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <9ee9d705-0cd7-44e0-9877-712f8222dd87@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Register Login Logout revisited From: lojbaj To: lojban X-Original-Sender: zacharyspector@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, since you mention it, {klama} doesn't specify whether a person's coming or going. So I suppose {klavei} could refer to the arrival or the departure or perhaps even both--maybe the database has a column for sign-in time and for sign-out time and they're both parts of the same record, and {klavei} refers to that record. So perhaps instead of simply logging in, you "start a login session" or something to that effect. {cfaklavei} =3D the part of the record that records when you logged in {fa'oklavei} =3D the part of the record that records when you logged out {klavei} =3D the whole record of the session {zbaklavei} =3D to make a new record of session; i.e. to log in {mulgauklavei} =3D to complete the record of the session; i.e. to log out On Mar 7, 6:23=A0pm, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 07 March 2011 13:18:37 lojbaj wrote: > > > It's called "logging in" because there's a log of visitors, right, and > > you need to log yourself in it. Shouldn't the word reflect that? It > > should include {vreji} somehow. > > > I think {klavei} and {li'avei} work fine for the records themselves, > > so take those and add something like {ciska} or {benji} to indicate > > that you are sending a notice of your arrival/departure. > > {klama} isn't the opposite of {cliva}; that's {tolcliva}. So the opposite= of > {li'avei} is {tolclivyvei}. > > Pierre > -- > When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. > J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.