From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDZ8IjsBBoEDsx5DQ@googlegroups.com Thu Mar 17 09:35:52 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0GAv-0003mp-4r; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:52 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf5313933qwh.16 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=Oh0doVZv7SlE69SxlO9bJEDQNPHesBmlyu3qMghhQRU=; b=RWHHoliyQXNT3ceUkNX+szKzqbmpjZ3lfb3dlRYV0O6+Mh5MYM6/wIlbn628YBz9zM Pz+bKQv5hj9N9YeBO4gmG/pUHxbrG0f7AG10ThqfPWqQUUkjZhJnhDwai031OILVUGfO FhTGmcTBBy6p+C1s1/yohpqr3ezkvHdA0R1G8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hWBW6sr95Py/i3sKZg+ywXEz1uEbNFPN8/a7i1+V4rzZZHeWrVAAluBj4XfsaKno+N xUpIqLdbD+pCnb8i9HZR7ECc5yE++5MCaAASfmGJ4AenqOYUZ8vlrWX0GzP7sUfeJ7Qi ysle32Na/8uJW+P/l85UjPIFVC/HTeTp+m9rA= Received: by 10.229.45.203 with SMTP id g11mr272453qcf.38.1300379737396; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.204.201 with SMTP id fn9ls320346qcb.3.p; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.141.138 with SMTP id m10mr133851qcu.5.1300379736415; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.141.138 with SMTP id m10mr133850qcu.5.1300379736397; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n4si437155qcg.15.2011.03.17.09.35.34; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Nm3SJc7L3wlcojC9snsyzORkYWw1JOu3BeZkTeIwPUk= c=1 sm=0 a=KxUu0IDFsxAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=dvEj4pgJZqbLblJRsKEA:9 a=ZTmLJ78ewcT0gMVNCnAA:7 a=u9CkVTwqmxWAtBJIPbPH7-0zh64A:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:59185] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D6/68-11439-658328D4; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:35:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E0E1442 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:35:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] opposite of an extreme Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:35:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201103171235.31282.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 17 March 2011 01:13:52 Luke Bergen wrote: > would you interpret {to'e tcepru} as {cabna} or {tcebalvi}? > > It sounds right that the opposite of "ancient past" is "very modern". Bu= t > it also seems like the present is a mid-point between the ancient past an= d > the distant future. So both {cabna} and {tcebalvi} seem like intuitively > good interpretations. I think {to'e tcepru} is equivalent to {tcebalvi}. What are good words for "modern"? Sometimes {cabna} isn't quite right. For= =20 instance, Modern English has been spoken since around 1550, but no one livi= ng=20 in Shakespeare's day could now be called {cabna}. Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.