From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCm5YrsBBoEAgv7RA@googlegroups.com Thu Mar 17 18:17:42 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0OJu-0002Lp-CQ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:41 -0700 Received: by wya21 with SMTP id 21sf3448020wya.16 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PqWXLcglreAMZ0XaKcTfci+kFs0dBIVtbdLSVm2jC5Y=; b=fH80Iz3iXuditIWDqhpRm/TqwOob0h6+4hMmT+GbMYcbQrqJxNpO91GMyeY4LnXFPD 9JpLRUFe9e8Nc4Zl9CqC2pEhLTKSzpP2J/Fu961q+9JdBQM32J5rAlfSl4QCYvNzP63G f7mVAUDAYmLsjTa8KUpA2JkzStpmzYQMKwL+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hne+3YN3BgIHGmppzDlBZe4ERuw6lF/HGJDhmotKz+GByu+mujW2xdVh9RrM5yO0zm 4PDqTbp31VB7UXvvdyCaI0G3DQ52HYvo8U7FzXJN3ckkxR5Z14EN35CQ0m9tRWUg4Ivp dqOyLluOSqmKkI1bn5Jzn6MvsTa9MKP+d/KQ4= Received: by 10.216.159.205 with SMTP id s55mr327880wek.12.1300411046150; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.143.86 with SMTP id k64ls1549093wej.3.p; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr32445wee.13.1300411044931; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.82.206 with SMTP id o56mr32444wee.13.1300411044878; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f43.google.com (mail-ww0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6si443432wes.11.2011.03.17.18.17.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.43; Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so3211060wwb.12 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.54.6 with SMTP id o6mr515664wbg.61.1300411044741; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.13 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201103171235.31282.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201103171235.31282.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:17:24 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] opposite of an extreme From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 17 March 2011 01:13:52 Luke Bergen wrote: >> would you interpret {to'e tcepru} as {cabna} or {tcebalvi}? >> >> It sounds right that the opposite of "ancient past" is "very modern". = =A0But >> it also seems like the present is a mid-point between the ancient past a= nd >> the distant future. =A0So both {cabna} and {tcebalvi} seem like intuitiv= ely >> good interpretations. > > I think {to'e tcepru} is equivalent to {tcebalvi}. I agree. > What are good words for "modern"? Sometimes {cabna} isn't quite right. Fo= r > instance, Modern English has been spoken since around 1550, but no one li= ving > in Shakespeare's day could now be called {cabna}. "cabna la cekspir" is contemporaneous with Shakespeare. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.