From lojban+bncCK30vq5WELanlOwEGgSP5Td1@googlegroups.com Sat Mar 19 13:36:22 2011 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q12sk-0007Hj-4a; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:21 -0700 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf1047306pxi.16 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aqb0XTpnfr6OdiA72r+0Z1Ifgm+nv4bj7oYcF+6FDq8=; b=fqeep0QEP/xDUWycrC2trJkHB4/b83zi8QSOlOD+ap2XbEFsuRuYhd9OTXqjSoi2IY 0otTF7Doexg9OPF/oiLGI9xosFrpY8vSwud3Cuj8t5O4wP1ycFiTcOMpDnwgsnJNFnpo t91vGfHRnn2avSpCPT6R7lDDS/DsTsPdmxFRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=QqOIsYNHbr4oxTiiZOxjOFHpHuXgV5TbnaXJYkl2dHQGMGj0vTJQkb4iGBTvaZYLGQ 8BHp//ww/V8N5BiM6gCIXUffeqHmORSuiwP4Hq958RMTA3RZkjIAWNJjhGQg1nFhacOQ NdmZOzHwwZQDrEkHtFbBtkwXIUF+BULX8/6wY= Received: by 10.142.66.35 with SMTP id o35mr127782wfa.55.1300566966371; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.178.21 with SMTP id a21ls1841144wff.0.p; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.213.13 with SMTP id l13mr555970wfg.15.1300566964612; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.213.13 with SMTP id l13mr555968wfg.15.1300566964528; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28si3792736wfb.6.2011.03.19.13.36.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q12sV-00079a-83 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:36:03 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Anyone remember what lerfu strings are actually *for*? Message-ID: <20110319203602.GP17248@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110319191714.GO17248@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 04:42:17PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > Does anyone remember why this is a fundamental type? =A0I'm > > guessing "complicated mekso shit", but I can't even think of any > > examples there. >=20 > lerfu strings have the same uses as single lerfu, basically as > pronouns: For example "by fy" for "la baupla fuzykamni", or "fy by > .ibu" for FBI. >=20 > The real problem is not lerfu strings but allowing numerals to mix > with lerfu strings,=20 Yes, sorry, that's what I meant. > which causes unwanted fails like the one you found in "panzi be ny > ci mei". In the relatively rare cases where you do need to include > a numeral in an acronym this could be done with the lerfu "pa bu", > "re bu", "ci bu", etc. so you could do ".ubu rebu" if you wanted > to translate "U2" as an acronym. >=20 > See "number and lerfu-string" in > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji Great, thanks. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.