From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCe75nsBBoEJYx5CA@googlegroups.com Sun Mar 20 14:54:54 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1QaI-0003tr-UW; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:54 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf3912551fxm.16 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=jrwyqkCoXS8Ni5kL/mnXH6KnJmLbqEsKPZxjtMwd5EU=; b=5LwmlG7frl3W1VdSXYUrqtcodE3ayp6ZRv7fzJH3PJHjGy02ejT5lomI1l/i+sjTqJ dAQ3Nf/ZdtJ5zriRKFHlZg1WuNOO2TU2T0XpAnde39UdmhHySjfofQVMES3vYza0X68d 0UTXBAcbssDu4zQmTBbiukcNV9deW+9edDEzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Gd2UTcR5tc4Kcua42aPJefkLNwilxHdjAGLLg55N9jJuaJp0v/0w2AThQX8EJTOhzD RqaCBEth38lAbTD32QAh1sEWuLHBTbJX0NWSRWtcMYHPueFjM9ew/3exQsfTC53uaiz1 UjP/g130kIw55tCmLVWHy2EwvNRabJQqydi2o= Received: by 10.223.76.195 with SMTP id d3mr424435fak.5.1300658078531; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.15.10 with SMTP id i10ls1676556faa.1.p; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.93.139 with SMTP id v11mr338994fam.28.1300658077623; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.93.139 with SMTP id v11mr338993fam.28.1300658077584; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f48.google.com (mail-fx0-f48.google.com [209.85.161.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g23si424604faa.9.2011.03.20.14.54.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.48; Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so5036857fxm.7 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.11 with SMTP id 11mr3997433fax.103.1300658077287; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.201 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:54:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] crossword puzzle From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747849eabc5cc049ef10e38 --00151747849eabc5cc049ef10e38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/3/20 Jorge Llamb=EDas > 2011/3/20 Remo Dentato : > > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > > While I'm at that. I never understood why you don't say {mi'e xorxes > > mu'o} since, in my mind, nothing should follow {mu'o}. > > "mu'o" is in COI, so it will normally be followed by the name of the > person you are talking to or by another COI, as in "mu'o mi'e". It > doesn't matter much in a written context, but in a radio context where > you are taking turns to talk, if you just end with "mu'o" your > interlocutor can't be completely certain that you have already > finished (with an elided "do'u"), or whether you will still be saying > a name, so "mu'o do'u" would be safer. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > To the best of my recollection, the only person who signs with "mi'e mu'o" is la.stelas., and I remember commenting that seemed very odd to me, in the same way that " Jonathan Jones Sincerely, " looks odd in English. Sincerely, Jonathan Jones --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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2011/3/20 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= ;jjllambias@gmail.com>
2011/3/20 Remo Dentato <rdentato@g= mail.com>:
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>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> While I'm at that. I never understood why you don't say {mi= 9;e xorxes
> mu'o} since, in my mind, nothing should follow {mu'o}.

"mu'o" is in COI, so it will normally be followed by th= e name of the
person you are talking to or by another COI, as in "mu'o mi'e&= quot;. It
doesn't matter much in a written context, but in a radio context where<= br> you are taking turns to talk, if you just end with "mu'o" you= r
interlocutor can't be completely certain that you have already
finished (with an elided "do'u"), or whether you will still b= e saying
a name, so "mu'o do'u" would be safer.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

To the best of my reco= llection, the only person who signs with "mi'e <name> mu'= ;o" is la.stelas., and I remember commenting that seemed very odd to m= e, in the same way that
"
Jonathan Jones
Sincerely,
"
looks odd in English.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Jones

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mu'o mi&= #39;e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be d= enpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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