From lojban+bncCJzE7b_XFxDpz4ftBBoEF4_y3A@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 10 10:25:18 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8yNq-00088c-Uc; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:25:17 -0700 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1sf9393768gyf.16 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:25:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XYVXaO1+puSFVNul1zJio3uUyPzOCGnwXYvCmJUiQT8=; b=ktakJoS8emgoMSbC7L5s3WBnWzblixtFEFWhggjzHGBzTzEra3EKW7mi9zhCli7Est h/Int2Na5kPmrfxz6jWHFW7dKM0wzQEWcTv4n+K34+kROkTo2KmMcUuFfxyc+h9aUOSL aV1WdKjL9taai2f5LvRi0k9bnqQOTeBKamGhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=x/61hNIJi6bkGzPAkP1rxDkBohhHA+x1itnicJu/erg8gNsgLEHImiuOh1zpF6vIgP qiDWlGFWMvlE8Iv/O2UAYepuTB5mrPfYa+Z54Gdek1wBJBUwmRlEWCdNT/okZh6TaAOu 4dfKFPMR91acISessksqNJrK+GCbxFz4jySfw= Received: by 10.90.23.12 with SMTP id 12mr687386agw.39.1302456297611; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.204.38 with SMTP id g38ls789035agq.7.p; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.21.33 with SMTP id y33mr699250agi.31.1302456296075; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 98.142.49.112 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/10.0.648.204 Safari/534.16,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <3f9f6be2-a506-4bd6-b5d3-60d486b71db5@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University From: djandus To: lojban X-Original-Sender: jandew@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I happen to have a number of friends who have already requested the same thing, which is partly why I want to have everything done online. (The other reason being: who likes all that paper stuff anyway?) So, as it stands, I would have everything that would be covered in class available online for anyone for certain. The exercises that would be completed through Owlspace I will have to put a little extra effort into releasing on a schedule, but I'm sure I can work it out. (It's not that I'm afraid of students knowing how to do assignments before they have to do them -- as I mentioned before, the grades don't matter very much. Really, I'm afraid of students being scared off by seeing a huge document of assignments.) I certainly want this to be something that others can study along with from anywhere, following along as it continues in the fall. (I've already started typing up a bit of an introduction, where I explain how if you're reading this info and you're not in my class, try to keep to a 14-week schedule, and try to get a partner to learn with, to practice conversation.) Exactly where all this information will reside is a little up in the air, but I'm fairly certain I get a webpage as a Rice student that I can use for this purpose. Basically, I'll just double all of the information online as it runs in the classroom. Speaking of all of this, I forgot to mention that I am relatively proficient in typing with LaTeX, (through LyX, with some direct TeX code experience) as one maybe can tell from the Table of Contents I linked to. So, I hope to have all of my lesson plans detailed in there in a way that as I teach a class, anyone can go straight to a document and read what I taught. --djandus On Apr 10, 3:11=A0am, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Well, I can only think of two things to say: First, Right On! That's just > freaking awesome that someone going to be teaching Lojban at a university= . > Second, I humbly request that you make as much of the materials you use > available to non-Rice Lojban students as well, because the more good > learning resources our nintadni have, the better. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, djandus wrote: > > coi rodo > > > So, I am Joe Anderson, an undergraduate at Rice, and am planning on > > teaching a class on Lojban in the fall. > > (http://courses.rice.edu/admweb/swkscat.main? > > p_action=3DCOURSE&p_crn=3D16915&p_term=3D201210) > > > I know a lot about Lojban, but I'm going to have to work like crazy to > > put this together, especially over the summer. I originally learned > > Lojban through Lojban for Beginners, about 3 years ago. I have started > > visiting the IRC only recently, learning a lot about how the language > > has been changing in Lojbanistan since that teaching aid was created. > > I've been playing around with many other teaching aids, especially > > Anki, and have many ideas for how to structure the class. I've also > > been working closely with a French professor here who studies teaching > > languages in general. With her help, I've already made a pretty > > accurate table of contents for the course, which I have uploaded here: > >http://jandew.ersoft.org/lojban/contents.pdf > > My main objectives are to teach proficiency in conversation and cover > > the grammar of approximately half of Lojban for Beginners. From my > > table of contents, you can note that this entails teaching everything > > up to tenses, where including the last chapter in my lesson plans is > > entirely up to how much lesson time I have. As for the time I have, > > I'm given a one-hour class a week for 14 weeks. My plan is to have as > > much talking as possible in class, with vocabulary and exercises being > > covered outside of class. To do that, I'm wanting to write up > > exercises that can be completed online (I'm currently investigating > > how much I can do with Owlspace) and require students to use Anki and > > somehow turn in their study results. (I know Anki keeps track of that > > very well.) There's obviously a lot of parts to this, but with > > everything so primordial, here's what I'd love to have help with: > > =A0 Lesson plans: > > =A0 =A0 =A0The theory behind ordering the courses as I have, making sur= e > > the general plans are good > > =A0 =A0 =A0What I'll be covering in class, how to keep students on thei= r > > toes > > =A0 =A0 =A0Exercises to give outside of class, creative assignments > > =A0 =A0 =A0The vocabulary I will cover -- how much per week, what order= , > > etc. > > =A0 =A0 =A0Any ideas about study materials -- I'm going to keep it simp= le, > > with vocabulary in one place, (Anki,) and other exercises in another. > > (online, probably Owlspace) If anyone has interesting ideas on cool > > study materials I could put it, I'd love to try to fit it in > > somewhere. > > =A0 I also need support in teaching me -- I need to get more proficient > > in speaking Lojban in the areas I will be teaching. I am not lacking > > so much in the concepts as the vocabulary. I want to get the students > > used to Lojban conversation, and I'm still not used to it, yet! > > =A0 There is a strong possibility that I can organize one day to have a > > computer lab trip for a videoconference with other Lojbanists! I think > > this would be a really fun way to end things, making sure that the > > students get connected with Lojbanistan. Any interested in helping > > with that may need to do the same as I, practicing conversation with > > the basic tools I will end up teaching over the semester. > > =A0 One day must be spent "outside of class" as a requirement for > > student-taught courses at Rice. Ideas for this are welcome -- right > > now, the best I've got is something like a scavenger hunt on campus. > > (note that with a videoconference and a day-outside-of-class, that > > means I really only have 12 weeks of class that I can count on) > > =A0 Any suggestions on communication. Right now, I'm only really > > accustomed to email and the IRC. This is my first post on the mailing > > list. I have browsed around a lot on lojban.org, but there's a lot of > > information there, and if anyone recognizes some great online resource > > for anything, even talking about this, (in case this discussion > > clutters up the mailing list or something,) then feel free to speak up > > about it. > > =A0 I happen to know how to program in python, and I've been working on > > a few study programs to help, say, learn the numbers. I'd love people > > to help suggest improvements for those as well, as I write them. > > > In working through this, I will for certain be able to have the > > resources associated with Owlspace, which basically entails easy > > communication with students and ability to have assignments on there, > > in a variety of ways. I will be investigating its capabilities as soon > > as possible. I probably will have access to it after Fall > > Registration, which begins tomorrow. I will also start getting numbers > > of people signed up for the course then. For those eager to learn more > > about that resource: > >https://owlspace-ccm.rice.edu/portal/site/!gateway/page/!gateway-300 > > I may end up also having access to the the Language Resource Center on > > campus, which means computer lab access with built-in speaking > > capabilities and any associated online resources. This means I could > > give assignments with audio or video interaction -- things which may > > not exist yet for Lojban. (These resources are normally used in ways > > like having a test with the last question being "Speak for at least > > one minute about {your family..., what you do on the weekend..., > > etc.}" or giving an assignment where students watch a video of a > > weatherman speaking and then answer questions about the weather.) > > These sorts of assignments/tests can be given online, if necessary. I > > might be able to have Anki installed in the lab in a lojban folder, so > > that students have access to it there, etc. > > > Oh, and I need to explain student-taught courses! So, at Rice, they > > work like this: it's counted as a one-credit course, as well as being > > a special type of pass-fail, called satisfactory-unsatisfactory, where > > the difference is in how GPA is calculated. Basically, this all means > > that even though I will have to have grades and whatnot, the grade > > will be rather unimportant. As a con, students will be rather > > unmotivated by bad grades. As a pro, the students who sign up will > > probably be extremely motivated by desire to learn the language > > itself. So, I can actually put very little focus on grading. (Also, > > note that at Rice it's really common for students to change around > > their schedule quite a lot for the first two weeks. I've been > > factoring that in to exactly how my lesson plans will work.) > > > Many of my plans are very flexible, so I'm welcoming as many > > criticisms and new ideas as possible right now. For now, I think > > that's best done through this mailing list, but I'm sure people will > > eventually need my direct email address: > > jandew+loj...@gmail.com > > (don't worry about cluttering my email -- gmail will tag anything you > > send to the "+lojban" email address) > > > Also, I will probably be on the IRC almost all the time after school's > > out, around May 4th. Thanks to the awesome Lojbanists who have already > > helped me so much, and to the help I know I'll get in the future! > > (This community is pretty excellent, in my opinion.) > > > co'o > > djandus > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu= do > zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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