From lojban+bncCLz1q8_ECBCKoIrtBBoEQap4vg@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 10 22:22:38 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q99a4-0006gH-0p; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:38 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf6741350qyk.16 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:references:to:subject :x-aol-ip:in-reply-to:x-mb-message-source:mime-version:from :x-mb-message-type:x-mailer:message-id:x-originating-ip:date :x-aol-global-disposition:x-aol-scoll-score:x-aol-scoll-url_count :x-aol-sid:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5ggjYP6SFF/QPV0Oyrxvi18NjDursYmgl2CzPZvuqqA=; b=Qm3is768vMrUz+4Djb2zZVL8CSqYPHcZp+QhkWlE3RnXLpQPPbaYIOg3TEnKPPuCZL XVfHZqrbCqI89qPRB50VIfuvtCVri/Pz+/QE7iE151THsPXrMJ4aR+IIU+p7oofVz6L5 8Tmp9wmsx84vA33Fdeu0NW1XN4KkprcoBl4t8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:references:to:subject:x-aol-ip:in-reply-to :x-mb-message-source:mime-version:from:x-mb-message-type:x-mailer :message-id:x-originating-ip:date:x-aol-global-disposition :x-aol-scoll-score:x-aol-scoll-url_count:x-aol-sid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=C+bfQfCFzteavxA6tuK57OVtcp1qAiXVvdiwoXzJEOTCmmMKJvqv4S3UbO+bUjdlA6 IMo3g9RVA2VexKD6O2Pr62Ine2RenFkbnWM/q7OEPJWJnS4fu6dNe1RN66+DQsfEwjsM p3z2CsKzlmJz4JJrqDPV8uR2PbskIc5DQfE5U= Received: by 10.229.32.17 with SMTP id a17mr486764qcd.42.1302499338780; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.229.132 with SMTP id ji4ls190349qcb.1.p; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.105.138 with SMTP id t10mr290551qco.13.1302499336932; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.105.138 with SMTP id t10mr290550qco.13.1302499336853; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w19si978846qco.11.2011.04.10.22.22.16; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of thirderivative@aol.com designates 205.188.91.95 as permitted sender) client-ip=205.188.91.95; Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p3B5M6ai019054 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:22:06 -0400 Received: from core-mjb003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mjb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.73]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1B848E000081 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:22:06 -0400 (EDT) References: <3f9f6be2-a506-4bd6-b5d3-60d486b71db5@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University X-AOL-IP: 72.174.170.135 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Seth X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Received: from 72.174.170.135 by Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.207) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:22:05 -0400 Message-Id: <8CDC61F87F4A961-10A0-172C2@Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [72.174.170.135] Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:22:05 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:529793184:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 3 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c4da28ffe1516 X-Original-Sender: thirderivative@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of thirderivative@aol.com designates 205.188.91.95 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=thirderivative@aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDC61F88113AD1_10A0_3089C_Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDC61F88113AD1_10A0_3089C_Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 what is your plan for books? just rely on electronic? you can always use th= at 24 page word list as your dictionary, since it is cheap to print, or you= can use the dictionary I designed for print. I use it for all of my transl= ation and stuff. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Books seth (aka seryf) -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2011 9:19 am Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University Ah, I did think of one suggestion: record the lectures and post them on You= Tube. I'm certain the in-class videos would be useful to others. As for a place to put stuff, lojban.org is an obvious choice. You can eithe= r use the wiki, which can be modified by anyone, or if you want some other = interface, you can talk to Robin about the details. doi Robin, you are still the one that maintains lojban.org, yes? On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, djandus wrote: I happen to have a number of friends who have already requested the same thing, which is partly why I want to have everything done online. (The other reason being: who likes all that paper stuff anyway?) So, as it stands, I would have everything that would be covered in class available online for anyone for certain. The exercises that would be completed through Owlspace I will have to put a little extra effort into releasing on a schedule, but I'm sure I can work it out. (It's not that I'm afraid of students knowing how to do assignments before they have to do them -- as I mentioned before, the grades don't matter very much. Really, I'm afraid of students being scared off by seeing a huge document of assignments.) I certainly want this to be something that others can study along with from anywhere, following along as it continues in the fall. (I've already started typing up a bit of an introduction, where I explain how if you're reading this info and you're not in my class, try to keep to a 14-week schedule, and try to get a partner to learn with, to practice conversation.) Exactly where all this information will reside is a little up in the air, but I'm fairly certain I get a webpage as a Rice student that I can use for this purpose. Basically, I'll just double all of the information online as it runs in the classroom. Speaking of all of this, I forgot to mention that I am relatively proficient in typing with LaTeX, (through LyX, with some direct TeX code experience) as one maybe can tell from the Table of Contents I linked to. So, I hope to have all of my lesson plans detailed in there in a way that as I teach a class, anyone can go straight to a document and read what I taught. --djandus On Apr 10, 3:11 am, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Well, I can only think of two things to say: First, Right On! That's just > freaking awesome that someone going to be teaching Lojban at a university= . > Second, I humbly request that you make as much of the materials you use > available to non-Rice Lojban students as well, because the more good > learning resources our nintadni have, the better. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, djandus wrote: > > coi rodo > > > So, I am Joe Anderson, an undergraduate at Rice, and am planning on > > teaching a class on Lojban in the fall. > > (http://courses.rice.edu/admweb/swkscat.main? > > p_action=3DCOURSE&p_crn=3D16915&p_term=3D201210) > > > I know a lot about Lojban, but I'm going to have to work like crazy to > > put this together, especially over the summer. I originally learned > > Lojban through Lojban for Beginners, about 3 years ago. I have started > > visiting the IRC only recently, learning a lot about how the language > > has been changing in Lojbanistan since that teaching aid was created. > > I've been playing around with many other teaching aids, especially > > Anki, and have many ideas for how to structure the class. I've also > > been working closely with a French professor here who studies teaching > > languages in general. With her help, I've already made a pretty > > accurate table of contents for the course, which I have uploaded here: > >http://jandew.ersoft.org/lojban/contents.pdf > > My main objectives are to teach proficiency in conversation and cover > > the grammar of approximately half of Lojban for Beginners. From my > > table of contents, you can note that this entails teaching everything > > up to tenses, where including the last chapter in my lesson plans is > > entirely up to how much lesson time I have. As for the time I have, > > I'm given a one-hour class a week for 14 weeks. My plan is to have as > > much talking as possible in class, with vocabulary and exercises being > > covered outside of class. To do that, I'm wanting to write up > > exercises that can be completed online (I'm currently investigating > > how much I can do with Owlspace) and require students to use Anki and > > somehow turn in their study results. (I know Anki keeps track of that > > very well.) There's obviously a lot of parts to this, but with > > everything so primordial, here's what I'd love to have help with: > > Lesson plans: > > The theory behind ordering the courses as I have, making sure > > the general plans are good > > What I'll be covering in class, how to keep students on their > > toes > > Exercises to give outside of class, creative assignments > > The vocabulary I will cover -- how much per week, what order, > > etc. > > Any ideas about study materials -- I'm going to keep it simple, > > with vocabulary in one place, (Anki,) and other exercises in another. > > (online, probably Owlspace) If anyone has interesting ideas on cool > > study materials I could put it, I'd love to try to fit it in > > somewhere. > > I also need support in teaching me -- I need to get more proficient > > in speaking Lojban in the areas I will be teaching. I am not lacking > > so much in the concepts as the vocabulary. I want to get the students > > used to Lojban conversation, and I'm still not used to it, yet! > > There is a strong possibility that I can organize one day to have a > > computer lab trip for a videoconference with other Lojbanists! I think > > this would be a really fun way to end things, making sure that the > > students get connected with Lojbanistan. Any interested in helping > > with that may need to do the same as I, practicing conversation with > > the basic tools I will end up teaching over the semester. > > One day must be spent "outside of class" as a requirement for > > student-taught courses at Rice. Ideas for this are welcome -- right > > now, the best I've got is something like a scavenger hunt on campus. > > (note that with a videoconference and a day-outside-of-class, that > > means I really only have 12 weeks of class that I can count on) > > Any suggestions on communication. Right now, I'm only really > > accustomed to email and the IRC. This is my first post on the mailing > > list. I have browsed around a lot on lojban.org, but there's a lot of > > information there, and if anyone recognizes some great online resource > > for anything, even talking about this, (in case this discussion > > clutters up the mailing list or something,) then feel free to speak up > > about it. > > I happen to know how to program in python, and I've been working on > > a few study programs to help, say, learn the numbers. I'd love people > > to help suggest improvements for those as well, as I write them. > > > In working through this, I will for certain be able to have the > > resources associated with Owlspace, which basically entails easy > > communication with students and ability to have assignments on there, > > in a variety of ways. I will be investigating its capabilities as soon > > as possible. I probably will have access to it after Fall > > Registration, which begins tomorrow. I will also start getting numbers > > of people signed up for the course then. For those eager to learn more > > about that resource: > >https://owlspace-ccm.rice.edu/portal/site/!gateway/page/!gateway-300 > > I may end up also having access to the the Language Resource Center on > > campus, which means computer lab access with built-in speaking > > capabilities and any associated online resources. This means I could > > give assignments with audio or video interaction -- things which may > > not exist yet for Lojban. (These resources are normally used in ways > > like having a test with the last question being "Speak for at least > > one minute about {your family..., what you do on the weekend..., > > etc.}" or giving an assignment where students watch a video of a > > weatherman speaking and then answer questions about the weather.) > > These sorts of assignments/tests can be given online, if necessary. I > > might be able to have Anki installed in the lab in a lojban folder, so > > that students have access to it there, etc. > > > Oh, and I need to explain student-taught courses! So, at Rice, they > > work like this: it's counted as a one-credit course, as well as being > > a special type of pass-fail, called satisfactory-unsatisfactory, where > > the difference is in how GPA is calculated. Basically, this all means > > that even though I will have to have grades and whatnot, the grade > > will be rather unimportant. As a con, students will be rather > > unmotivated by bad grades. As a pro, the students who sign up will > > probably be extremely motivated by desire to learn the language > > itself. So, I can actually put very little focus on grading. (Also, > > note that at Rice it's really common for students to change around > > their schedule quite a lot for the first two weeks. I've been > > factoring that in to exactly how my lesson plans will work.) > > > Many of my plans are very flexible, so I'm welcoming as many > > criticisms and new ideas as possible right now. For now, I think > > that's best done through this mailing list, but I'm sure people will > > eventually need my direct email address: > > jandew+loj...@gmail.com > > (don't worry about cluttering my email -- gmail will tag anything you > > send to the "+lojban" email address) > > > Also, I will probably be on the IRC almost all the time after school's > > out, around May 4th. Thanks to the awesome Lojbanists who have already > > helped me so much, and to the help I know I'll get in the future! > > (This community is pretty excellent, in my opinion.) > > > co'o > > djandus > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu= do > zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ----------MB_8CDC61F88113AD1_10A0_3089C_Webmail-m117.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 what is your plan for books= ? just rely on electronic? you can always use that 24 page word list as you= r dictionary, since it is cheap to print, or you can use the dictionary I d= esigned for print. I use it for all of my translation and stuff. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Books


seth (aka seryf)



-----= Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
To: lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 10, 2011 9:19 am
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University

Ah, I did think of one suggestion: record the lectures and post them on You= Tube. I'm certain the in-class videos would be useful to others.

As for a place to put stuff, lojban.org is an obvious choice. You can either use the wiki, which c= an be modified by anyone, or if you want some other interface, you can talk= to Robin about the details.

doi Robin, you are still the one that maintains lojban.org, yes?

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
I happen to have a number of friends who ha= ve already requested the
same thing, which is partly why I want to have everything done online.
(The other reason being: who likes all that paper stuff anyway?) So,
as it stands, I would have everything that would be covered in class
available online for anyone for certain. The exercises that would be
completed through Owlspace I will have to put a little extra effort
into releasing on a schedule, but I'm sure I can work it out. (It's
not that I'm afraid of students knowing how to do assignments before
they have to do them -- as I mentioned before, the grades don't matter
very much. Really, I'm afraid of students being scared off by seeing a
huge document of assignments.)

I certainly want this to be something that others can study along with
from anywhere, following along as it continues in the fall. (I've
already started typing up a bit of an introduction, where I explain
how if you're reading this info and you're not in my class, try to
keep to a 14-week schedule, and try to get a partner to learn with, to
practice conversation.)

Exactly where all this information will reside is a little up in the
air, but I'm fairly certain I get a webpage as a Rice student that I
can use for this purpose. Basically, I'll just double all of the
information online as it runs in the classroom.

Speaking of all of this, I forgot to mention that I am relatively
proficient in typing with LaTeX, (through LyX, with some direct TeX
code experience) as one maybe can tell from the Table of Contents I
linked to. So, I hope to have all of my lesson plans detailed in there
in a way that as I teach a class, anyone can go straight to a document
and read what I taught.

--djandus

On Apr 10, 3:11 am, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I can only think of two things to say: First, Right On! That's j= ust
> freaking awesome that someone going to be teaching Lojban at a univers= ity.
> Second, I humbly request that you make as much of the materials you us= e
> available to non-Rice Lojban students as well, because the more good > learning resources our nintadni have, the better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > coi rodo
>
> > So, I am Joe Anderson, an undergraduate at Rice, and am planning = on
> > teaching a class on Lojban in the fall.
> > (http://courses.rice.edu/admweb/swkscat.main?
> > p_action=3DCOURSE&p_crn=3D16915&p_term=3D201210)
>
> > I know a lot about Lojban, but I'm going to have to work like cra= zy to
> > put this together, especially over the summer. I originally learn= ed
> > Lojban through Lojban for Beginners, about 3 years ago. I have st= arted
> > visiting the IRC only recently, learning a lot about how the lang= uage
> > has been changing in Lojbanistan since that teaching aid was crea= ted.
> > I've been playing around with many other teaching aids, especiall= y
> > Anki, and have many ideas for how to structure the class. I've al= so
> > been working closely with a French professor here who studies tea= ching
> > languages in general. With her help, I've already made a pretty > > accurate table of contents for the course, which I have uploaded = here:
> >http://jandew.ersoft.org/lojban/contents.pdf
> > My main objectives are to teach proficiency in conversation and c= over
> > the grammar of approximately half of Lojban for Beginners. From m= y
> > table of contents, you can note that this entails teaching everyt= hing
> > up to tenses, where including the last chapter in my lesson plans= is
> > entirely up to how much lesson time I have. As for the time I hav= e,
> > I'm given a one-hour class a week for 14 weeks. My plan is to hav= e as
> > much talking as possible in class, with vocabulary and exercises = being
> > covered outside of class. To do that, I'm wanting to write up
> > exercises that can be completed online (I'm currently investigati= ng
> > how much I can do with Owlspace) and require students to use Anki= and
> > somehow turn in their study results. (I know Anki keeps track of = that
> > very well.) There's obviously a lot of parts to this, but with > > everything so primordial, here's what I'd love to have help with:=
> >   Lesson plans:
> >      The theory behind ordering the courses as I h= ave, making sure
> > the general plans are good
> >      What I'll be covering in class, how to keep s= tudents on their
> > toes
> >      Exercises to give outside of class, creative = assignments
> >      The vocabulary I will cover -- how much per w= eek, what order,
> > etc.
> >      Any ideas about study materials -- I'm going = to keep it simple,
> > with vocabulary in one place, (Anki,) and other exercises in anot= her.
> > (online, probably Owlspace) If anyone has interesting ideas on co= ol
> > study materials I could put it, I'd love to try to fit it in
> > somewhere.
> >   I also need support in teaching me -- I need to get more p= roficient
> > in speaking Lojban in the areas I will be teaching. I am not lack= ing
> > so much in the concepts as the vocabulary. I want to get the stud= ents
> > used to Lojban conversation, and I'm still not used to it, yet! > >   There is a strong possibility that I can organize one day = to have a
> > computer lab trip for a videoconference with other Lojbanists! I = think
> > this would be a really fun way to end things, making sure that th= e
> > students get connected with Lojbanistan. Any interested in helpin= g
> > with that may need to do the same as I, practicing conversation w= ith
> > the basic tools I will end up teaching over the semester.
> >   One day must be spent "outside of class" as a requirement = for
> > student-taught courses at Rice. Ideas for this are welcome -- rig= ht
> > now, the best I've got is something like a scavenger hunt on camp= us.
> > (note that with a videoconference and a day-outside-of-class, tha= t
> > means I really only have 12 weeks of class that I can count on) > >   Any suggestions on communication. Right now, I'm only real= ly
> > accustomed to email and the IRC. This is my first post on the mai= ling
> > list. I have browsed around a lot on lojban.org, but there's a lot of
> > information there, and if anyone recognizes some great online res= ource
> > for anything, even talking about this, (in case this discussion > > clutters up the mailing list or something,) then feel free to spe= ak up
> > about it.
> >   I happen to know how to program in python, and I've been w= orking on
> > a few study programs to help, say, learn the numbers. I'd love pe= ople
> > to help suggest improvements for those as well, as I write them.<= br> >
> > In working through this, I will for certain be able to have the > > resources associated with Owlspace, which basically entails easy<= br> > > communication with students and ability to have assignments on th= ere,
> > in a variety of ways. I will be investigating its capabilities as= soon
> > as possible. I probably will have access to it after Fall
> > Registration, which begins tomorrow. I will also start getting nu= mbers
> > of people signed up for the course then. For those eager to learn= more
> > about that resource:
> >https://owlspace-ccm.rice.edu/portal/s= ite/!gateway/page/!gateway-300
> > I may end up also having access to the the Language Resource Cent= er on
> > campus, which means computer lab access with built-in speaking > > capabilities and any associated online resources. This means I co= uld
> > give assignments with audio or video interaction -- things which = may
> > not exist yet for Lojban. (These resources are normally used in w= ays
> > like having a test with the last question being "Speak for at lea= st
> > one minute about {your family..., what you do on the weekend...,<= br> > > etc.}" or giving an assignment where students watch a video of a<= br> > > weatherman speaking and then answer questions about the weather.)=
> > These sorts of assignments/tests can be given online, if necessar= y. I
> > might be able to have Anki installed in the lab in a lojban folde= r, so
> > that students have access to it there, etc.
>
> > Oh, and I need to explain student-taught courses! So, at Rice, th= ey
> > work like this: it's counted as a one-credit course, as well as b= eing
> > a special type of pass-fail, called satisfactory-unsatisfactory, = where
> > the difference is in how GPA is calculated. Basically, this all m= eans
> > that even though I will have to have grades and whatnot, the grad= e
> > will be rather unimportant. As a con, students will be rather
> > unmotivated by bad grades. As a pro, the students who sign up wil= l
> > probably be extremely motivated by desire to learn the language > > itself. So, I can actually put very little focus on grading. (Als= o,
> > note that at Rice it's really common for students to change aroun= d
> > their schedule quite a lot for the first two weeks. I've been
> > factoring that in to exactly how my lesson plans will work.)
>
> > Many of my plans are very flexible, so I'm welcoming as many
> > criticisms and new ideas as possible right now. For now, I think<= br> > > that's best done through this mailing list, but I'm sure people w= ill
> > eventually need my direct email address:
> > jandew+loj...@gmail.= com
> > (don't worry about cluttering my email -- gmail= will tag anything you
> > send to the "+lojban" email address)
>
> > Also, I will probably be on the IRC almost all the time after sch= ool's
> > out, around May 4th. Thanks to the awesome Lojbanists who have al= ready
> > helped me so much, and to the help I know I'll get in the future!=
> > (This community is pretty excellent, in my opinion.)
>
> > co'o
> > djandus
>
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>
> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa= tfu do
> zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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