From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCQuZftBBoEruL3sQ@googlegroups.com Wed Apr 13 10:25:56 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QA3p7-0005tk-Al; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:55 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf797623fxm.16 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Uf13sdzyQpJCGsZR+aM01JT1fsvAJw1tx3qMV5j/8CY=; b=Al5hR2BvLEZHI8iwbSLDTiV+YyACuqJ14IUMCdQnyJ9AAo7HN1NYtTBASVEPVd6FuF ysGTLXNM6SkyWehk5OkMbdWgnSpI5h7Sn1vrtet6UgIz151irnWP/5cnT11JLampdOlb 3giwBZxFQJa6cK/Sitp2scixKdc2O14Zgffp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ujgSaFepLZ7Cv0J3btIREJLQ/mimxk1veyVEYXU2Z9kTA5XXbc8m9dwYgfVFZvJqhV wpsOcUianV8BIYj2tIWvGpwPNlxc5kaZWY7Lc6CaSeakDKh3vxrtnLWqwhTqa2UsYVSC JiMDarPwsrsqiLuSzofLh2VKH8vRY0pbjYoDw= Received: by 10.223.27.153 with SMTP id i25mr1140511fac.8.1302715536691; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.25.35 with SMTP id y35ls713123eey.2.p; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.13 with SMTP id m13mr653332eeh.54.1302715534677; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.13 with SMTP id m13mr653331eeh.54.1302715534655; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com (mail-ew0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s53si249750eeh.1.2011.04.13.10.25.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.44; Received: by mail-ew0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 19so273749ewy.3 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.34.74 with SMTP id k10mr293433ebd.98.1302715534157; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.31.144 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <57ede063-dfb3-4d0a-949d-27c8633c14a9@l2g2000prg.googlegroups.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:25:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] New beginner To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bee0ca82a1b04a0d01846 --0015174bee0ca82a1b04a0d01846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Whoops, got that backwards. I read it as implying that Guy1 sleeps with his own mother who is also in a "relationship" with Guy2. This relationship (since it's expressed as lo do mamta) is vague and I think the implication from Guy2's response (and probably if he put the right tone in his voice) is that it's a sexual relationship. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I always understood it to imply as follows: > > Guy1: I slept with your mother > Guy2: yep, my mama (as in, the one with whom I'm having relations with), > who is your biological mother (thus implying that guy1 was saying "you have > sex with my mother"). > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > >> Yes, but the first person probably wouldn't say that in that case, and >> {pe} is still restrictive association, and {lo mi broda} = {lo broda pe mi}. >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> They're siblings. >>> >>> to pu benji di'u fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi >>> >>> mu'o mi'e.aionys. >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2011 10:48 AM, "Alex Rozenshteyn" >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think that's the joke, but the I can't think of a situation where this >>> works unless the first person has at least two mothers. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Ian Johnson >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Why would {lo ma... >>> >>> -- >>> Alex R >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to... >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alex R >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174bee0ca82a1b04a0d01846 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whoops, got that backwards. =A0I read it as implying that Guy1 sleeps with = his own mother who is also in a "relationship" with Guy2. =A0This= relationship (since it's expressed as lo do mamta) is vague and I thin= k the implication from Guy2's response (and probably if he put the righ= t tone in his voice) is that it's a sexual relationship.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Luke Bergen= <lukeabergen= @gmail.com> wrote:
I always understood it to imply as follows:

Guy1: I slep= t with your mother
Guy2: yep, my mama (as in, the one with whom I= 'm having relations with), who is your biological mother (thus implying= that guy1 was saying "you have sex with my mother").


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Alex Rozens= hteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, but the first person probably wouldn't say that in that case, and = {pe} is still restrictive association, and {lo mi broda} =3D {lo broda pe m= i}.


On Wed, Apr 13, = 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

They're siblings.

to pu benji di'u fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi

mu'o mi'e.aionys.

On Apr 13, 2011 10:48 AM, "Alex = Rozenshteyn" <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that's the joke= , but the I can't think of a situation where this works unless the firs= t person has at least two mothers.



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