From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhDLv6ztBBoEmuXA9w@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 17 10:14:04 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QBVXr-0003wH-Si; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:14:03 -0700 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf5913201ywg.16 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xi+nbOGVQCxBhfiqGX6Xuk+AHKDjWsztJYmxLJHpLCU=; b=OtCHToltoIpaj0HPSeYZipLe5ymlVpnKW1wibiD5qKKmnOHk/SoWQ42z+mkG/9r9se K3UGZN40gcM1iK41hwYByD0gpRO0/MFwy33hrtxLlydlIgYy4pdf3vVW4y2Pa49IFntd EKgH4j2DFW86nTEjDHlH3cyeRX/FfRjlVwqYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ezOQ6uVYfRhEGJOxfgyQ4Zh4M7MoHWGZYMrAtBc9fqnR8QUIN1ZcAx9bMaSVhhz15G bu209iRWqsmFs8qrUGmE3cxo/o5abpBMwgWvYV175JpoHY6/hngaCFWPIji2AHPnUgwR COQgIQIhZmbgn5DaJhOpy+2Xg6DzyGH2t02Xs= Received: by 10.100.49.12 with SMTP id w12mr382567anw.10.1303060427782; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.32.138 with SMTP id c10ls1634601ibd.2.gmail; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.31.141 with SMTP id y13mr1947184ibc.2.1303060426701; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.31.141 with SMTP id y13mr1947183ibc.2.1303060426656; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com (mail-iw0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b26si1177661ibq.4.2011.04.17.10.13.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so4155708iwc.38 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.247.198 with SMTP id md6mr370457icb.518.1303060426300; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.42.175.201 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:13:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:13:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mix: additive vs subtractive From: ".arpis." 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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, tijlan wrote: > Colors are combined in two distinct ways: additive or subtractive. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_color > > The RGB model uses the additive primaries (e.g. computer displays), > while the CMYK model uses the subtractive primaries (e.g. printers). > The RGB mixing creates brighter colors, while the CMYK mixing results > in darker colors. > > Fundamentally different modes of mixing. Which conjunctions will make > the distinction in tanru? > > "lo xunre joi crino cu pelxu" may be true in RGB but not in CMYK; "lo > pelxu joi nukni cu xunre" may be true in CMYK but not in RGB. > > The Venn diagrams for these color models seem to hint at sets as much > as masses -- the sort of "jo'e" (union) as well as "joi" (mixed mass). > But we can't really say that "xunre jo'e crino" is additive and "pelxu > jo'enai nukni" subtractive in the particular sense of physical color > combination, can we? > > > mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
Colors are combined in two distinct ways: additive or subtractive.

ht= tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_color

The RGB model uses the additive primaries (e.g. computer displays),
while the CMYK model uses the subtractive primaries (e.g. printers).
The RGB mixing creates brighter colors, while the CMYK mixing results
in darker colors.

Fundamentally different modes of mixing. Which conjunctions will make
the distinction in tanru?

"lo xunre joi crino cu pelxu" may be true in RGB but not in CMYK;= "lo
pelxu joi nukni cu xunre" may be true in CMYK but not in RGB.

The Venn diagrams for these color models seem to hint at sets as much
as masses -- the sort of "jo'e" (union) as well as "joi&= quot; (mixed mass).
But we can't really say that "xunre jo'e crino" is additi= ve and "pelxu
jo'enai nukni" subtractive in the particular sense of physical col= or
combination, can we?


mu'o

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