From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCZzqztBBoEO35x3g@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 17 10:45:29 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QBW22-0003NP-Sa; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:45:28 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf5315009qyk.16 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=0y8LLu4ZfC3T72mjcMFylq1l5E5eBuXmKEoOQ7LyQ/Q=; b=cS3piIfTkcCodi9RDfAT51FpMa7T6Evc+QhnWb3Eui8HlGaa3StaJjwlt44FjInJ8h 072QDoHEIW+Ecy5Sn7CW1uLmTScsGHru55YWXxZctmtLBTQLkzrEv5N6iKDYZ1zTCuES I71q9dx+ccLim11kvEFUFbWygx/YuPbEtyELI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=D0amtey6ETARi7p7WtJ6oexEpimcgPVO09sKmxsc0mWmbRosLVNlrO3+yr0Xvnq1KY 3z0fpN4vS/5IWiw/Qc90T0Xm1zwBttGroxIE8+r0j5qFc3N521t/u/YONA1wDcWMm0U0 aWbrhO5B1RcggZjyY5JilYZYV7pbhcsAXsYcU= Received: by 10.224.178.14 with SMTP id bk14mr450421qab.48.1303062297838; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:44:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.185.141 with SMTP id co13ls340054qab.2.gmail; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr268267qab.4.1303062297230; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr268266qab.4.1303062297222; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w19si1177701qco.3.2011.04.17.10.44.55; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=2pE2Kh9Ye2ywHyyFZnC5ZQ1FvuPrdOtuPO5uN4ysVDU= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=2afw_8w_BCQA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=C4aADUCWc5i3I9sYdzgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HuBnXvznTcjOQRLu:21 a=PytYOMhF9fHR1FNy:21 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:49507] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3C/F1-05159-7172BAD4; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:44:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBB017AC3 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:44:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] mix: additive vs subtractive Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:44:40 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201104171344.48486.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 17 April 2011 12:43:47 tijlan wrote: > The Venn diagrams for these color models seem to hint at sets as much > as masses -- the sort of "jo'e" (union) as well as "joi" (mixed mass). > But we can't really say that "xunre jo'e crino" is additive and "pelxu > jo'enai nukni" subtractive in the particular sense of physical color > combination, can we? "pelxu jo'enai nukni" is equivalent to "pelxu jo'e crino". The conjunction = you=20 want is "ku'a". Until now, the only use I had for "ku'a", besides talking= =20 about sets, is street intersections. Extra credit question: what is nukni jo'e bicnukni? Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.