From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhC4nrLtBBoE9eWU-g@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 18 12:21:47 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QBu0y-0007vB-8y; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:47 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf6629104qyk.16 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=PLOG9OeUA1O+JjLpu656TznG58ASpFuBEbbo7vJZ/pc=; b=TwvQjdFYzgotQF8Wn35IqAxa1O99J0mRBNpDoam69T5GtPckmuvMULeyyycw6zlLoi ENcUeTc6aAkiDQkWatV1FLQeae00ORgk81ct6LyWoZAOGo+9NluNnXHQN4735jCQIKj8 AN6ZQMV7ydDtGab/j3N9ZRTNlGaQ3DnibJ0DU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=1p54tAh3cVKbJh7/o/lcwUXcwabjRB7GQL74B30bzqYDL4s4noCJiwb2bhAmNq5YZt F3+64kgTvE03BmbKJSvt3NEc8LdKZlxt38wQgTozKeSBctWuAJ2Jm/67z3ClkZ3IQmh9 OJNBtb4E6PlGHIAJTyui1kF40U+rxMH1gQiuQ= Received: by 10.224.186.10 with SMTP id cq10mr563495qab.51.1303154488126; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.179.137 with SMTP id bq9ls500740qab.6.gmail; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.194.201 with SMTP id dz9mr279926qab.2.1303154487494; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.194.201 with SMTP id dz9mr279925qab.2.1303154487481; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l4si1449835qck.12.2011.04.18.12.21.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.44; Received: by mail-qw0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 23so2622991qwc.3 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.117.73 with SMTP id p9mr3746922qcq.96.1303154487327; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.144 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mix: additive vs subtractive From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems to me that both statements are fine, but if you want to specify under which system you are using, "te ma'i lo jmina" and "te ma'i lo vimcu" might be in order here. --gejyspa On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, tijlan wrote: > Colors are combined in two distinct ways: additive or subtractive. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_color > > The RGB model uses the additive primaries (e.g. computer displays), > while the CMYK model uses the subtractive primaries (e.g. printers). > The RGB mixing creates brighter colors, while the CMYK mixing results > in darker colors. > > Fundamentally different modes of mixing. Which conjunctions will make > the distinction in tanru? > > "lo xunre joi crino cu pelxu" may be true in RGB but not in CMYK; "lo > pelxu joi nukni cu xunre" may be true in CMYK but not in RGB. > > The Venn diagrams for these color models seem to hint at sets as much > as masses -- the sort of "jo'e" (union) as well as "joi" (mixed mass). > But we can't really say that "xunre jo'e crino" is additive and "pelxu > jo'enai nukni" subtractive in the particular sense of physical color > combination, can we? > > > mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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