From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhD6k7PtBBoEElt1Kg@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 18 16:32:28 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QBxvb-00050g-86; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:28 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf6873594qyk.16 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MsJ+9WoBy07D1cPdjV0gNRNtFrse5EYT40fQbJjqRng=; b=RcO72IsmOUA13+VOfoznNUKcic2N4Mw1FtnzfDlNfYAQWmOelgrVlilb90V0D5iQR+ SMDW7d9u6yg9tgbJgHvSR0rf+ATMM0xyW06QJ7xrtbzAvzUOM8SpFPzLC1OZqoy7y/y8 bs1Bwa1Z+td26QqE58iMaSnACZgsjHte9Iq1s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=do5CLEbtcl4oDRk7EHZUN6siJCXrwl4eH1QNWfnMpZ/rDFQk+p2h/4MkFePTG0xR1B P6EhowfDDbiscJAcMiqZ0YtSM5j6vphtLFT4uZCh4xeSVBDBYNUsiXK4z9oGGS4Cm5G1 kr2xp3VaKiwimn7t/V7p5FDXLyC8xGdkV+TWA= Received: by 10.229.68.10 with SMTP id t10mr639855qci.20.1303169530523; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.135.76 with SMTP id m12ls18922qat.0.gmail; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.203.196 with SMTP id fj4mr35390qab.7.1303169529915; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.203.196 with SMTP id fj4mr35389qab.7.1303169529900; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f51.google.com (mail-qw0-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2si1485247qca.8.2011.04.18.16.32.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.51; Received: by qwf7 with SMTP id 7so3524881qwf.24 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.39.16 with SMTP id d16mr2839011qae.176.1303169529545; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.28.203 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Mathematical epsilon From: ".arpis." To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175113eee403fa04a139cc8f --0015175113eee403fa04a139cc8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable doi Ian The latter. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:31 PM, .arpis. wrote= : > The =CE=B5-=CE=B4 definition of a limit isn't the only use of =CE=B5 in t= his sense, > although it's the most well known. Epsilon is used to represent an > arbitrarily small number, the same way that p is used to represent a prim= e. > > > 2011/4/18 Jonathan Jones > >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn = wrote: >> >>> .i me'o .Epsilon bu lo'o se pilno ci'e da poi cmaci ku'o fi lo sinxa be >>> lo namcu poi na'e jimte fi lo ka cmalu >>> .i ma xu namcu valsi bau la lojban smuni simsa >>> .i go'i fa zo so'u xu >>> >>> ni'o xe fanva zoi gy >>> >>> The symbol "epsilon" is sometimes used in math to represent an >>> arbitrarily small number. Is there a number word in lojban that means >>> something similar? Is "so'u" such a word? >>> >>> gy >>> -- >>> Alex R >>> >> >> As in the formal definition of limits? We'd need something for =CE=B4, n= ot just >> =CE=B5. >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patf= u >> do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0015175113eee403fa04a139cc8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable doi Ian

The latter.

On Mon, Apr 18= , 2011 at 7:31 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
The =CE=B5-=CE=B4 definition of a limit isn't the only use of =CE=B5 in= this sense, although it's the most well known. Epsilon is used to repr= esent an arbitrarily small number, the same way that p is used to represent= a prime.


2011/4/18 Jonathan Jones &= lt;eyeonus@gmail.com= >
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:3= 5 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
.i me'o .Epsilon bu lo'o se pilno ci'e da poi cmaci ku'o fi= lo sinxa be lo namcu poi na'e jimte fi lo ka cmalu
.i= ma xu namcu valsi bau la lojban smuni simsa
.i go'i fa zo so'u = xu

ni'o xe fanva zoi gy

The symbol "epsilon" is somet= imes used in math to represent an arbitrarily small number. Is there a numb= er word in lojban that means something similar? Is "so'u" suc= h a word?

gy
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Alex R

As in the fo= rmal definition of limits? We'd need something for =CE=B4, not just =CE= =B5.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi= patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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