From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARC0pbPtBBoEJiOmfw@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 18 17:09:41 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QByVd-0004xd-2v; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:40 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf6804408wwb.16 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ww6jqtSA6ncgf99y6ESJZ/0saCepG30eOv/PFDLeEPU=; b=thOLa6KIMBJEvrSIhEQmR7iG5MzyFX7Aa8FOfM7ULjsjV+7DhwQYT7IJJ3feYOsOa3 VvljPHtHWcLPrxlF2OP+tvJt7/wD8LKVNmQQBD+/+MXIxZyAPwsOlFFiWk5USuifFB1o yWuzdqI+9Wiy1n6wzYL/co3btPqLeFgLcDfbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cGHubZB01oHXvZ+wUDFGlNuHzm8iHylEbvDRn7UlX7HoHtowa6nlVZQpBMBLaT+TYK idK2AbWhCiQlh8VzmBIBKKTFJezNJHflfjPcLQdONJ2ynGsYr4lNpPqW2boHPGZ7EP4L M3/xgHa0rMoi4NhWhVXu645+bBY6Ewz9LmSr0= Received: by 10.216.23.78 with SMTP id u56mr2926643weu.15.1303171764391; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.9.96 with SMTP id k32ls68073wbk.2.gmail; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.144 with SMTP id q16mr355772wbc.13.1303171762709; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.144 with SMTP id q16mr355771wbc.13.1303171762683; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f14si1703190wbu.5.2011.04.18.17.09.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by mail-ww0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 20so7723445wwd.35 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.245.4 with SMTP id n4mr5317798wer.88.1303171761501; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.13.211 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:09:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:09:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Mathematical epsilon From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e43d1bbecf7b704a13a5186 --e0cb4e43d1bbecf7b704a13a5186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the latter, what's wrong with just using {.ebu} or something, minus the irritating conflict between this name and Euler's constant? For the former, incidentally, {li fi'u ci'i} works although it's really not at the correct level of precision for nonstandard analysis. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:32 PM, .arpis. wrote= : > doi Ian > > The latter. > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:31 PM, .arpis. wro= te: > >> The =E5-=E4 definition of a limit isn't the only use of =E5 in this sens= e, >> although it's the most well known. Epsilon is used to represent an >> arbitrarily small number, the same way that p is used to represent a pri= me. >> >> >> 2011/4/18 Jonathan Jones >> >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >>> >>>> .i me'o .Epsilon bu lo'o se pilno ci'e da poi cmaci ku'o fi lo sinxa b= e >>>> lo namcu poi na'e jimte fi lo ka cmalu >>>> .i ma xu namcu valsi bau la lojban smuni simsa >>>> .i go'i fa zo so'u xu >>>> >>>> ni'o xe fanva zoi gy >>>> >>>> The symbol "epsilon" is sometimes used in math to represent an >>>> arbitrarily small number. Is there a number word in lojban that means >>>> something similar? Is "so'u" such a word? >>>> >>>> gy >>>> -- >>>> Alex R >>>> >>> >>> As in the formal definition of limits? We'd need something for =E4, not >>> just =E5. >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pat= fu >>> do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --e0cb4e43d1bbecf7b704a13a5186 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the latter, what's wrong with just using {.ebu} or something, minus= the irritating conflict between this name and Euler's constant?
For the former, incidentally, {li fi'u ci'i} works although it'= ;s really not at the correct level of precision for nonstandard analysis.
mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Mon, Ap= r 18, 2011 at 7:32 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote= :
doi Ian

The latter.
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at= 7:31 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> = wrote:
The =E5-=E4 definition of a limit isn't the only use of =E5 in this sen= se, although it's the most well known. Epsilon is used to represent an = arbitrarily small number, the same way that p is used to represent a prime.=


2011/4/18 Jonathan Jones &= lt;eyeonus@gmail.com= >
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:3= 5 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
.i me'o .Epsilon bu lo'o se pilno ci'e da poi cmaci ku'o fi= lo sinxa be lo namcu poi na'e jimte fi lo ka cmalu
.i= ma xu namcu valsi bau la lojban smuni simsa
.i go'i fa zo so'u = xu

ni'o xe fanva zoi gy

The symbol "epsilon" is somet= imes used in math to represent an arbitrarily small number. Is there a numb= er word in lojban that means something similar? Is "so'u" suc= h a word?

gy
--
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R

As in the formal definition of l= imits? We'd need something for =E4, not just =E5.

--
mu'= o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi= patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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