From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhDCoN7tBBoEl47Qmg@googlegroups.com Tue Apr 26 20:41:20 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QEvcp-0004ux-K3; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:41:20 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1589531fxm.16 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=lN3xx2RYemT58zaNdIKCaEkL2oCe+E/mACE7FnM1NYA=; b=IPjAJJxYbwIT0nz0urpnH6X+P5FB4aY4IFfHmnWxUn+QhriZ845xAJmzfcKEtVxXft fqPUWJNTAftIk1VokehoXlLwZ/nUDz3gFYEKimgoJ24G8zviFHLuuXjrfPoz9PFq0XrI +FwxrDUud24Ve0XhDDjQS/2QB31ea1J+SdIq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=sD82CH9+Csh4ogtH1eayc2lyspKH+2IT6brldNOBPEVhZD284KrYQ7rJ+XKEwFMuKV HEK4VFIx4pg5/b/SdjaCHrq5OPM+7XbsFd8uezlZs0U+t/hGDlg0egNm5jPNZc0+gl+c uFVQElt85/th9Pnw82rW3k62iO4GPTje1sg80= Received: by 10.223.97.5 with SMTP id j5mr343137fan.11.1303875650745; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.25.14 with SMTP id x14ls79808fab.3.gmail; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.36.141 with SMTP id t13mr142724fad.25.1303875643264; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.36.141 with SMTP id t13mr142723fad.25.1303875643229; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si39248fav.6.2011.04.26.20.40.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.44; Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so1231450bwz.31 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.19.76 with SMTP id z12mr1387211bka.205.1303875642881; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.57.137 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <29de23a7-9c3b-439e-8bc7-57748489baa7@z37g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> References: <29de23a7-9c3b-439e-8bc7-57748489baa7@z37g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:40:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lettorals From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555f49a86786f04a1de3402 --00032555f49a86786f04a1de3402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They're used as pronouns for Alice, the watch, and the Rabbit, respectively (probably). See this: http://dag.github.com/cll/7/5/ On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Donny wrote: > I'm currently glossing a paragraph in Lojban (the third paragraph of > the Lojban translation of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland), and I am > stuck on a few words because they just don't seem to make any sense in > context. > > The word 'abu' pops up quite a few times, as well at 'jy' and 'ry'. > Looking up these words tells me that they are just the names for the > letters 'a', 'j', and 'r', but that translation makes no sense at all > when used in the context. Do these words have other meanings? > > i la=92e di=92u no=92e ba=92e mutce le ka cizra ijenaiji=92a la alis jinv= i le > du=92u ba=92e > mutce le ka nalfadni kei fa le nu tirna le nu le ractu cu sezysku lu > oiro=92a > oiro=92a mi lerci li=92u to baku ca le nu abu pensi la=92e di=92u kei abu= ri > te sidbo le > du=92u ei ri abu cizra i ku=92i caku piro ri simlu le ka rarna toi i ku= =92i > ca le nu le > ractu ca=92a lebna lo junla le kosta daski gi=92e catlu jy gi=92e di=92a = sutra > kei la alis > spaji sa=92irbi=92o ki=92u le nu lindi pagre le abu menli fa le si=92o ab= u pu > noroi viska > lo ractu poi ponse lo kosta daski a lo junla poi ry ke=92a dy ka=92e lebn= a > i bai > le nu kucli kei abu bajra pagre le foldi gi=92e jersi ry gi=92e u=92adai > viska le nu ry > canci mo=92ine=92i lo barda ke ractu kevna noi cnita le spabi=92u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 Alex R --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00032555f49a86786f04a1de3402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They're used as pronouns for Alice, the watch, and the Rabbit, respecti= vely (probably).

See this: http://dag.github.com/cll/7/5/

On M= on, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Donny <mizenki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm currently glossing a paragraph in L= ojban (the third paragraph of
the Lojban translation of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland), and I am stuck on a few words because they just don't seem to make any sense in<= br> context.

The word 'abu' pops up quite a few times, as well at 'jy' a= nd 'ry'.
Looking up these words tells me that they are just the names for the
letters 'a', 'j', and 'r', but that translation mak= es no sense at all
when used in the context. Do these words have other meanings?

i la=92e di=92u no=92e ba=92e mutce le ka cizra ijenaiji=92a la alis jinvi = le
du=92u ba=92e
mutce le ka nalfadni kei fa le nu tirna le nu le ractu cu sezysku lu
oiro=92a
oiro=92a mi lerci li=92u to baku ca le nu abu pensi la=92e di=92u kei abu r= i
te sidbo le
du=92u ei ri abu cizra i ku=92i caku piro ri simlu le ka rarna toi i ku=92i=
ca le nu le
ractu ca=92a lebna lo junla le kosta daski gi=92e catlu jy gi=92e di=92a su= tra
kei la alis
spaji sa=92irbi=92o ki=92u le nu lindi pagre le abu menli fa le si=92o abu = pu
noroi viska
lo ractu poi ponse lo kosta daski a lo junla poi ry ke=92a dy ka=92e lebna<= br> i bai
le nu kucli kei abu bajra pagre le foldi gi=92e jersi ry gi=92e u=92adai viska le nu ry
canci mo=92ine=92i lo barda ke ractu kevna noi cnita le spabi=92u

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