From lojban+bncCPGMg4mHHBCI6ujsBBoEnVKSWw@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 04 14:16:13 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6r82-00037J-Fu; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:16:12 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf2541365vws.16 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tw3OsDTeMNgkTgzrLJInQouA3SnNOnuj178DZ2RKkQo=; b=TTtHduBWq8gDDpOQtmSaib/V3lYJWlpxrSZH4CtV4sAI3WBGuaaJ11xAoxiXfj0p0+ VO1O3UWcflLPzdwLfMhdHceUBnDSgLfol9tR2vFDKqHhrR+Yb0uOTjOL5ZYCmvUJm+AE LAS1l30Jygtos53vqitdgrJBTFw85dfTSYOEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=m/6AexArMU8nVoPsmMXPl28ZICUC8FoRhAuNas/2w8nuo8AXOXtFNZq0Z6BAOCR5ky UNzHAx/3DLxhLfYzPoQh2vwy75Ox6YbU6InnRUoJJyEbCu5lhsrhsHh0WCB5zLSRiskU txCN8vf+zd4OpnMyMyDL1zm4f0roEA4819Log= Received: by 10.220.125.21 with SMTP id w21mr128172vcr.32.1301951752541; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.67.30 with SMTP id p30ls2001313vci.3.p; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.95.139 with SMTP id d11mr1727962vcn.24.1301951751692; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.95.139 with SMTP id d11mr1727961vcn.24.1301951751676; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si369433vch.0.2011.04.04.14.15.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.181; Received: by mail-vx0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 39so5297920vxb.12 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.179.36 with SMTP id dd4mr6712643vdc.56.1301951750532; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.203.194 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0a74da06-07cf-4b52-a329-ed0ebbae2f5b@u8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 23:15:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags? From: Ivo Doko To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ivo.doko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another thing I wanted to say, note that English itself is not completely devoid of cases, which haunt it from its past, so to say. Apart from genitive case which remains in English featured as =B4's=B4 for singulars and =B4'=B4 for regular plurals (although that one has no consequence on spoken English), accusative case remains in pronouns: =B4I=B4 -> =B4me=B4, =B4he=B4 -> =B4him=B4, =B4she=B4 -> =B4her=B4, =B4we= =B4 -> =B4us=B4, =B4they=B4 -> =B4them=B4. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.