From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDnhunsBBoE66W4Fw@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 04 15:17:31 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6s5O-0002Ql-Ai; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:31 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf6110547wwb.16 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=0zNSFH0vlA4LfIlM+xQ0mULGL3gK7qbQWaU1L29pdQQ=; b=PX0Wplb+3gszYGYUqxUkrFzfWvPC3oatx04hVEZ3YITWU5NKPLBl0sTqmvxW4fO+YD hRrqn1YFLW5gwotsd0yfHugiz1mTjREnkK/QmAjXqgAT7rvi/XMcywZOy7OximvBuG05 HqWhA49un+0MVQMdzaktgZXMxFhXW3pXCeMpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bRcIzb50Vntv+g99shc2VBk3tovIZjAzHWBpU1/ihLjiuW/AZu4BYF6dj0yxVEJdXb jJHJqTEZJc5eh+qYbotWvSnrLIAPJ4VnsWaWzCR7mpu7cZ4hjeaj1jd/+DgKzb3fZ3vw i2+2uFn2Aj1EgLk4yKA52JWjUcQkw+YFgW7+g= Received: by 10.216.64.201 with SMTP id c51mr997194wed.26.1301955431898; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.213.147 with SMTP id a19ls2338797wep.2.p; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.79.8 with SMTP id h8mr278235wee.14.1301955430741; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.79.8 with SMTP id h8mr278234wee.14.1301955430723; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f45.google.com (mail-ww0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6si688445wes.11.2011.04.04.15.17.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.45; Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so6116426wwi.26 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.42.143 with SMTP id s15mr7735902wbe.143.1301955429269; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.205.70 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0a74da06-07cf-4b52-a329-ed0ebbae2f5b@u8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:17:09 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > e.g. instead of {mi klama lo zarci} (and remembering that {klama} means "x1 > comes/goes to destination x2 from origin x3 via route x4 and vehicle x5" you > could say {gau mi klama seka'a lo zarci}. "gau mi klama" is not the same as "mi klama", it means "I make (someone) go". It could mean you make yourself go, but it doesn't have to, and even if you do mean that it's not really the same as plain going. If you are going to say "seka'a lo zarci", why not also "ka'a mi"? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.