From lojban+bncCMuAoImuBxDZgvLsBBoEV5-QtQ@googlegroups.com Wed Apr 06 08:06:18 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7UJC-0005gP-2S; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:06:17 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1229820fxm.16 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:06:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=iLFLnaLrz7QouSpA3VwlnIpUyrbi3wPHXK7dYt/3Hcc=; b=50sl+6W9E25gv9uMF5GAFcHTsEy/Ltsl6/gtsEtpePvuYnrJ+hEHACAU9wzy8RDNF8 CjOjtwIySgQ3fUe1Vc1Huw8mDuukx+xFsiIr0ZC0GodXp8GpanTV0c1IQhhYEQVNIf/2 bbbt6ZFTEY36F8Oos04QIv3PR9tdYEt/JP/Xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=oWoAWWLjAQho9D739JkW9qxYx21ZoIWciDGQlNm9GTc6h7vyNHse/1qDtY3q8uKHKH I9F4ZBjVBcvqG5kdnbpZY6LYEsU/fkFUs2jyhExohG7K3Sc9aN8MtSQBWYTLSn563e7I s1V3I9W62I3hnVG+AgBWV9uAUpsyV6gRKAEjI= Received: by 10.223.75.19 with SMTP id w19mr184223faj.16.1302102361210; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.240.17 with SMTP id ky17ls441918bkb.2.p; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.34.70 with SMTP id k6mr164788bkd.1.1302102359791; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.34.70 with SMTP id k6mr164787bkd.1.1302102359763; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f45.google.com (mail-bw0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t11si116659bkf.6.2011.04.06.08.05.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jtorndorff@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.45; Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so1348104bwz.4 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.177.11 with SMTP id bg11mr991352bkb.9.1302102359221; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.102.71 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:05:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] tail rafsi vs bai From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jtorndorff@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jtorndorff@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jtorndorff@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab50295276104a041541c --0016e6dab50295276104a041541c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .i mi NERkla gau do vs .i mi nerKLAgau do Penultimate stress is the rule. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in the CLL or something but I don't > remember ever reading about it. > > In spoken lojban, how would a listener differentiate between: {mi nerkla > gau do} and {mi nerklagau do}? > > Is there an implied glottal stop there or what? > > mu'o mi'e la .cribe. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e6dab50295276104a041541c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i mi NERkla gau do vs .i mi nerKLAgau do

Penultimate stress is the = rule.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Lu= ke Bergen <lu= keabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in= the CLL or something but I don't remember ever reading about it.
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In spoken lojban, how would a listener differentiate between:=A0= {mi nerkla gau do} and {mi nerklagau do}?

Is there an implied=A0glottal=A0stop there or what?

mu'o mi'e la .cribe.

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