From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCahPLsBBoEFh4_BA@googlegroups.com Wed Apr 06 08:16:43 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7UTF-0000Oo-QJ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:16:42 -0700 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf2954546ywg.16 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=z4tKuVoyw8rPixNX3xH3r+gHb91a347k+wnU7NPPfnc=; b=png0jVVUcbTIKEj6OrgGdjVcLqDrn35ZNy4Hm6cJYx5G7OU6B9s+QVUToW5A4m8haJ hR6SqLV1zIqYcC+DGGcZd2dkjUb4VuFbanf2+jlPjHa2RMVq9a7JVDLFITpKNuVSKpCl RJn0Q0zbId+k0NeFUFKifYbBn1wPRivEdr8ts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=KQEVFxqtNz8AbrOQXYk+Cx/BxJHHPRAuB/aL8XEFHb5Wbqhu1RsyBu2LI2bOzMbkw5 9X8lfYzzczYf9j5bAjGHcntPwAOe6IZ/bxJfUqHMvG4+ohodBObRwXP31xr4y5y78Vfj 0aigcsIJO2XedeHXTDPI4I+o19QbaC1RrHjHg= Received: by 10.91.33.25 with SMTP id l25mr328987agj.47.1302102554170; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.178.17 with SMTP id bk17ls1178728ibb.1.p; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.68 with SMTP id q4mr295474ibb.10.1302102553429; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.68 with SMTP id q4mr295473ibb.10.1302102553389; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d14si147760ibi.1.2011.04.06.08.09.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so1624803iwn.26 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr1110078ibd.54.1302102553171; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.37.10 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] tail rafsi vs bai To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534c94f24a0fa04a041609f --00221534c94f24a0fa04a041609f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ahhhh right. Forgot about the stress. Good catch. ki'e do On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jameson Orndorff wrote: > .i mi NERkla gau do vs .i mi nerKLAgau do > > Penultimate stress is the rule. > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in the CLL or something but I don't >> remember ever reading about it. >> >> In spoken lojban, how would a listener differentiate between: {mi nerkla >> gau do} and {mi nerklagau do}? >> >> Is there an implied glottal stop there or what? >> >> mu'o mi'e la .cribe. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jameson Ornd= orff <jtorndor= ff@gmail.com> wrote:
.i mi NERkla gau do vs .i mi nerKLAgau do
Penultimate stress is the rule.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Luke Bergen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure this is mentioned somewhere in the CLL or something but I do= n't remember ever reading about it.

In spoken lojban, how would a listener differentiate between:=A0= {mi nerkla gau do} and {mi nerklagau do}?

Is there an implied=A0glottal=A0stop there or what?

mu'o mi'e la .cribe.

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