From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC2tf_sBBoEPo7R4w@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 08 21:04:33 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8PPJ-00039H-6V; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:33 -0700 Received: by yxd5 with SMTP id 5sf7349417yxd.16 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bUZlQoQ0J+e2RFYUHf4BhyhclpXRvoKY0Ip13VqxKa8=; b=O/X7RiUvEWKgwxi+ZEeb9HmBgPSUOZVCeVQBqoOsUL0nZ+n8fTutn5hVEMCeJRY3+X 6BeyVR3c4c4Sk1+FwtBbHb3rLlzCk3o5FJCl6WdiEOcbTOAQDwCB7TMyBWvnsOoDC90x 031E4b3VIpPW9W3biUSsU9f6iH6CJHZ5uh8SE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Ip82laOfDrO84NyLWf6figqbHdPdz76qDloQ4rm5Mhmun3j0qw3nM7LB49dnaj35Cr 7yRAMZG6eFXEIXB9LfQ7Oof9xrpwYZ+Z6JQ2JLZNdWcBr0qGi4LYAz2bq+JhSIcJkxv+ pn1HJU3/zIQmneN9EAbj7Rwwg0vcIxY5K1ryM= Received: by 10.91.35.32 with SMTP id n32mr428883agj.3.1302321846789; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.32.138 with SMTP id c10ls502969ibd.2.p; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.188.75 with SMTP id cz11mr1274368ibb.0.1302321845954; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.188.75 with SMTP id cz11mr1274367ibb.0.1302321845925; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f180.google.com (mail-iy0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vw9si566229icb.4.2011.04.08.21.04.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.180; Received: by mail-iy0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 40so5591085iyf.39 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.97.5 with SMTP id l5mr3754978icn.504.1302321837831; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.178.196 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:03:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0a74da06-07cf-4b52-a329-ed0ebbae2f5b@u8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <637d0745ed534b12dfc5867e00c83107@mail.twey.co.uk> <201104082010.50455.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 22:03:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bf7da86f4c404a0746ec2 --20cf303bf7da86f4c404a0746ec2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same here. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > well... that's how I say them. Other than the initial consonant, cut and > nut sound the exact same to me. > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Ivo Doko wrote: > >> On 9 April 2011 03:13, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > After a bit of trial, I did find http://www.ithkuil.net/ilaksh/ works, >> and >> > from here I found it's actually >> > http://www.ithkuil.net/ilaksh/Ilaksh_Intro.html >> >> He claims that "cut" and "nut" are pronounced with [=C9=99] (unrounded >> central vowel, a.k.a. schwa, a.k.a. {y}, i.e. he claims that "cut" and >> "nut" are pronounced {kyt} and {nyt}, respectively). >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --20cf303bf7da86f4c404a0746ec2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same here.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:02 PM= , Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
well... that's how I say them. =C2=A0Other than the initial consonant, = cut and nut sound the exact same to me.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Ivo Doko <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9 April 2011 03:13, Jonathan Jones &= lt;eyeonus@gmail.com= > wrote:
> After a bit of trial, I did find http://www.ithkuil.net/ilaksh/ works, and
> from here I found it's actually
> http://www.ithkuil.net/ilaksh/Ilaksh_Intro.html

He claims that "cut" and "nut" are pronounced wit= h [=C9=99] (unrounded
central vowel, a.k.a. schwa, a.k.a. {y}, i.e. he claims that "cut"= ; and
"nut" are pronounced {kyt} and {nyt}, respectively).

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