From lojban+bncCPGMg4mHHBDBu__sBBoEY2J9tQ@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 08 21:17:21 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q8Pbq-0003Pg-7I; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:21 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf2033139vws.16 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BIizK4kkyC/hKhQH21DbvOwMPboAhBK/0ZRIY2f7D2Q=; b=2sHwBqLreNoZwxLXNSTpfA0YQqNykIyukFfgTIuwUtkZSEwFVRXKzoHSoXvr7XM7j5 d7PB5aK+HiKf4PQ2vErrAaFGLAHAvsWMH9O4B2JGlb5C7Haudq8Ed204F/4XI4aSLu3i z6VSTSSdyJLMplJr0jJpWPE0DBAPsGtRyw93M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YjIBVD3fwmG+Y56dj9+NnwMPoXMdzXLLAuu2d213+g+IW44WFXz/BcPqGK2zZuzaHu eZJMYN7zOazcGcLDD3J+ymFSoInyfURZq7qwJvbdRCFhinSV2FszlF1HHrirGyQrESGw lx+9IObofyMWCRQEYy0ONQzqlOfp8/lt4Zws4= Received: by 10.220.125.21 with SMTP id w21mr371957vcr.32.1302322625990; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.67.30 with SMTP id p30ls1326294vci.3.p; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.65 with SMTP id j1mr713151vdv.1.1302322625137; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.65 with SMTP id j1mr713150vdv.1.1302322625117; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z15si68811vch.2.2011.04.08.21.17.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.172; Received: by mail-vx0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 33so3833330vxg.31 for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.46.234 with SMTP id k42mr873653vcf.133.1302322624774; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.60.13 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:17:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0a74da06-07cf-4b52-a329-ed0ebbae2f5b@u8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <637d0745ed534b12dfc5867e00c83107@mail.twey.co.uk> <201104082010.50455.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 06:17:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags? From: Ivo Doko To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ivo.doko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you pronounce "cut" and "nut" like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/En-us-cut.ogg and this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/En-us-nut.ogg respectively, then you're not pronouncing them like {kyt} and {nyt} ([k=C9=99t] and [n=C9=99t]), but more like {kat} and {nat} ([k=C9=90t] and = [n=C9=90t] (international IPA)). If you're not pronouncing them similarly to how they're pronounced in those recordings then I would be most grateful if one of you could record him-/herself pronouncing either "cut" or "nut" or both and upload the recording somewhere so that I can hear your pronunciation. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.