From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARDz_eDuBBoEtGoetQ@googlegroups.com Sat May 21 15:39:02 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QNuow-00006q-K7; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:39:02 -0700 Received: by wya21 with SMTP id 21sf8361755wya.16 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=QoZdXaXPuQk2Muz/9NVxyjKGUjBAgOCUOlzBrxdcHBo=; b=bZtaL/u/IB/3ZK0R+Dx7MlwffIh22S+QQ5hvCZaXk+lauyPl1/1LWJSszTsviAsVum Wz/THvej7wWmv83iMW0ryKpTJMBQxi/x7JRoYowz0pE2+4FmH/ttLPPCRrcDymwblfnm eADve1IIDDgEf7iQWcYGYgzlYnDT0mKbqV2os= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=6arsVxRLBY1NF8A2e9kzy2lA1483CXgWzmWLJnvN3UWBCQTLOwiiAvaKPPDoSu/WAa so/NCMKub+ICTClT7R+MKNWzV+nH1btVSXf2USqn3IzfqNqHnQR4A3jxyaSxGmF72Ypm tJ/JRPrgsV7TlPP2/LMPUmVXE9gpZUnUSn7Rk= Received: by 10.216.143.88 with SMTP id k66mr317322wej.8.1306017523110; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.9.96 with SMTP id k32ls1522108wbk.2.gmail; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.54.6 with SMTP id o6mr71684wbg.9.1306017521925; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.54.6 with SMTP id o6mr71683wbg.9.1306017521874; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f45.google.com (mail-ww0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10si3362249wbz.1.2011.05.21.15.38.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.45; Received: by wwi36 with SMTP id 36so4306971wwi.26 for ; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.221.30 with SMTP id q30mr801308wep.84.1306017521532; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.35.207 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2011 15:38:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <354665.35729.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <354665.35729.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 18:38:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lojban in an art project From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e659f09270ffbf04a3d0e6d8 --0016e659f09270ffbf04a3d0e6d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A preliminary attempt of sorts: .i la kroksapoks goi ko'a stuzi lo cnino larcu gi'e palgau lo nu lo cedrymi'u ke viska larcu cu xagdrata .i lo tigni .e lo dansu .e lo te skina .e lo te draci .e lo xe draci .e lo ctuca jarco .e lo cnino zgike finti cu se vi'ecpe fi ko'a .i lo nu lo larfi'i cu zifre cu vajrai ko'a .i ko'a ji'a ckupra lo cukta be fi lo larfi'i na'e ca lo nu jarco mu'o mi'e .latros. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > For those who might be interested, here is the text to translate, with some > useful notes > > Croxhapox is a centre for experimental art promoting the wide diversity of contemporary > visual arts. Its spaces are also open to performances, dance, film, > theatre, educational exhibitions and experimental music. At the centre of > its programme is the autonomy of the artistic discourse. Croxhapox also > publishes artists' books, parallel to the exhibitions." > > The pronunciation of the name 'Croxhapox' is with a mute 'h' and the x is > pronounced as in english: 'ks'. The 'o' sounds like the O in 'cot' but not > as in 'dog'. The 'a' is a short vowel similar to the a of 'father' but a > bit more clear and open and certainly not like the a of our 'cat', actually > it is a latin 'a'. does that make sense to you? > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* stefaan van ryssen > *To:* lojban-list@lojban.org > *Sent:* Wed, May 11, 2011 1:13:23 PM > *Subject:* [lojban] lojban in an art project > > Dear lojban enthousiast, > > I am currently working on an artistic project for the Belgian art centre > Croxhapox (www.croxhapox.org) in Ghent. > We want to translate a short text in as many languages as possible - > living, dead, artificial, any language... > The final result will be a network of connection between people and > organisations and our art centre, which will be documented online and in a > publication. > So, while I am an enthousiast of the Lojban endeavour but not fluent enough > to be able to translate the text properly, I am looking for someone who > would want to do so. The text consists of only five lines (you will find it > included in a Dutch and an English version). We can unfortunately not pay > you anything, but we will give credit in the publication and on the website. > > As you well know, lojban can benefit from some positive exposure - and > that's what I want to aim at. > The language will be treated just like any other: no hierarchy of speeches! > - but lojban NEEDS to be in our project. > > Thanks in advance, > > Stefaan Van Ryssen > +32 486 28 36 94 > Jan Delvinlaan 115 > 9000 Gent, Belgium > > PS: this is a purely *artistic* project with no commercial goals > whatsoever. See also our website and watch the pictures of daniel Dewaele's > exhibition, which seeded the idea. > > > > > -- > stefaan van ryssen > random research and digital dexterity > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e659f09270ffbf04a3d0e6d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A preliminary attempt of sorts:

.i la kroksapoks goi ko'a stuzi = lo cnino larcu
gi'e palgau lo nu lo cedrymi'u ke viska larcu cu = xagdrata
.i lo tigni .e lo dansu .e lo te skina .e lo te draci .e lo xe = draci .e lo ctuca jarco .e lo cnino zgike finti cu se vi'ecpe fi ko'= ;a
.i lo nu lo larfi'i cu zifre cu vajrai ko'a
.i ko'a ji'a= ckupra lo cukta be fi lo larfi'i na'e ca lo nu jarco

mu'= ;o mi'e .latros.

On Sat, May 21, 2011= at 12:54 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrot= e:
Fo= r those who might be interested, here is the text to translate, with some u= seful notes

Croxhapox is a centre for experimental art promoting the wide diversity of contempor= ary visual=A0 arts. Its spaces are also open to performances, dance, film, theatre, educational exhibitions and exper= imental music. At the centre of its programme is the autonomy of the artisti= c discourse. Croxhapox also publishes artists' books, parallel to the exhibitions."

The pronunciation of the=20 name 'Croxhapox' is with a mute 'h' and the x is pronounced= as in=20 english: 'ks'. The 'o' sounds like the O in 'cot' b= ut not as in 'dog'.=20 The 'a' is a short vowel similar to the a of 'father' but a bit more clear and open and=20 certainly not like the a of our 'cat', actually it is a latin '= a'. does=20 that make sense to you?



From: stefaan van ryssen <stefaan.vanryssen@gmail.com>= ;
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 1:= 13:23 PM
Subject: [lojb= an] lojban in an art project

Dear lojban enthousiast,

I am currently working on an ar= tistic project for the Belgian art centre Croxhapox (www.croxhapox.org) in= Ghent.
We want to translate a short text in as many languages as possible - l= iving, dead, artificial, any language...
The final result will be a network of connection between people and or= ganisations and our art centre, which will be documented online and in a pu= blication.
So, while I am an enthousiast of the Lojban endeavour = but not fluent enough to be able to translate the text properly, I am looki= ng for someone who would want to do so. The text consists of only five line= s (you will find it included in a Dutch and an English version). We can unf= ortunately not pay you anything, but we will give credit in the publication= and on the website.

As you well know, lojban can benefit from some positive= exposure - and that's what I want to aim at.=A0
The language= will be treated just like any other: no hierarchy of speeches! - but lojba= n NEEDS to be in our project.

Thanks in advance,

Stefaan Van= Ryssen
Jan Delvinlaan 11= 5
9000 Gent, Belgium

PS: this is a purely ar= tistic project with no commercial goals whatsoever. See also our websit= e and watch the pictures of daniel Dewaele's exhibition, which seeded t= he idea.




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random research and digital dexterity

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