From lojban+bncCMGclZyxExD934PvBBoEwejrYQ@googlegroups.com Sat May 28 05:52:28 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QQJ0B-00084w-RI; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:28 -0700 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1sf3529050gyf.16 for ; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=obFlDaSPejdv8OUGKeOhUGi4jo+MmMfglbrkISzvIy8=; b=OT1/pARcrlBncuJJag0z1qsbHXC3X5Cr5jkPb6WL+CoIVzDJ5mLDSBfk6O8TELZMMv Kk8BTw7HRmVkLQY427OH89N0K2H2+0vPgmFju8MBqAwQOVFv+gBLJ6jniPh2tIBjoZl9 Au+T3JMTm5sOiQimSHutWmH53exIvJ2uhgEGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=dqn60yogUcCbjoU1IkixAHDpNV8oB4BUWpxwiDnHh2+wpsT69NgPrOqyReUzXeNY+C cziZlsiniK1RruYxC8j2/Ii5Jdnn3L2N1vu79mFrblwXDApVdaBS3tx3GBajk7c5FYbA wyPO/y3pdzv83hR3SjPCsglMYg3Qs86VSk0vo= Received: by 10.91.163.4 with SMTP id q4mr460772ago.2.1306587133239; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.142.17 with SMTP id u17ls554709agn.6.gmail; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.7.31 with SMTP id 31mr456173agg.27.1306587132676; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by l18g2000yql.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100401 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.9,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Phonology of L vs R (probleme with japanese speakers ?) From: Escape Landsome To: lojban X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, please be patient with me in the case the question has already be posted, but... I wonder ... As you may now, Japanese speakers do not make distinction between the [r] and the [l] sounds. For them, they are quite the same thing, indeed, phonologically speaking, they are the same phoneme (in the japanese language system). So, does it happen there are japanese native speakers in lojbanistan ? How is this particular problem handled ? Thanks ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.