From lojban+bncCK30vq5WELvSle8EGgQMVbgv@googlegroups.com Tue May 31 15:18:52 2011 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXGv-0003po-Tt; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:51 -0700 Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22sf2705947pvc.16 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=gnfM2KZUS3vV9gv+dCUt/vEg48Cj3lkY5P79+FfJCMY=; b=XbjquqPUSM2KcPfNuEcU1urySlJZIJ2Y396wfyOOAbOGDaBo52ILPehXqr5C6VcpMN vB15/Dp7JaZzok1/GAZpxswkirAkz9CC8nUlTV8rop422Op+d5CohdGhX1qA2b9Lj0JF YF9MJfzBpcDy5+RddwgucOivnBtNQrD3+RrAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=BRPS53T0KUtU4UwdEphljSFeTZN7D/ug31W4bbmahCOCMFggoPsLzc6Zg1ICklq+F3 g3EeBmOy7z6eaPjTnvhpNpa+zK23fHgkKJngz51Pbf/i+5CvGOk2wgmuehY7If6RicV4 YsWKZCSpF2MV5wUIc2bSwXZHmZWcAdOY68c1w= Received: by 10.68.19.161 with SMTP id g1mr554651pbe.7.1306880315565; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.36.67 with SMTP id o3ls3231524pbj.0.gmail; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with SMTP id s8mr1394207pbp.46.1306880314591; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with SMTP id s8mr1394206pbp.46.1306880314577; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si693535pbn.1.2011.05.31.15.18.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QRXGj-0003pj-S3 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:18:33 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [nomik] pamoi javni Message-ID: <20110531221833.GL11152@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110528045431.GQ11152@digitalkingdom.org> <20110528171828.GR11152@digitalkingdom.org> <20110528175221.GT11152@digitalkingdom.org> <20110531184223.GG11152@digitalkingdom.org> <20110531190228.GI11152@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 03:26:47PM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > Which is in turn, why I am confused. To call something "Nomic", when > it really isn't (especially since there potentially aleph-null things > that ARE), is confusing to me. It's a nomic, it's just that the thrust of the game is a set of temporary sub-rules rather than the permanent rules. You are entirely welcome to run a different nomic if you like. > So how does one play this "pretending-to-be-Nomic" game? See my other post with an example from the FRC mailing list. I kind of assumed people would check the mailing list themselves if they cared; sorry for not posting that sooner. > For example, even though I've never played Agora ( > http://www.agoranomic.org/ ) , as least Agora is recognizable as > being a Nomic, although probably more complex than the governing > of some real world micronations! (current ruleset at > http://agora.qoid.us/current_flr.txt ) I'd rather gnaw off my toes than play a game like that. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.