From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARCY64LuBBoEDxO_9Q@googlegroups.com Tue May 03 19:10:47 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QHRY2-0002Mt-Rn; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:47 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf856112wwb.16 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=4IpPjZshMd0m6UPpDuAxTq2Y6aTByFshDlxREo4/QQo=; b=glW+GLKkoifdK6Rek28vSoSAnL+m9zU67Ti+1jzL4O+7HDkjDOtDsmsXJP19sZeb3r 9DFVGhqnYBwFgm/tB3NTtmdG2JyT7LFvdzW+M39j4HJFeQHrStJMwwM/WyF43L5+ZN8N oEsNXNIZc6B/khnXOPdhmic+CUjpEqw/eYK5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=PTLIGghNOkLby9GQHlNZNSouS6H2EZuAlR4g7SLg6Tzyj+4tZDwshuW/ArWjRZrTyu fWsLcVH1kV0fPZbN5Vy+Na/+ktImDZB7CAEgker+tGNcPyChqY7ko2R+pnvaRtuX1I/B 3tK7/uIR6SGPnGqmgv4x2qHGOrIKqpPVV6sbQ= Received: by 10.216.78.133 with SMTP id g5mr1304399wee.19.1304475032506; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.130.31 with SMTP id q31ls414908wbs.1.gmail; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.141 with SMTP id q13mr34809wbc.2.1304475031056; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.141 with SMTP id q13mr34808wbc.2.1304475031032; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f170.google.com (mail-wy0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15si148877wbl.4.2011.05.03.19.10.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.170; Received: by mail-wy0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 34so568162wyb.29 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.123.74 with SMTP id u52mr502359weh.24.1304475030809; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.26.130 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <347891.1785.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201105021943.53482.jezuch@interia.pl> <737349.12591.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <770130C4-1AF0-4060-AC2A-F209952E0AA9@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:10:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b3988adc9d46c7504a269c276 --485b3988adc9d46c7504a269c276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Umm, how does the place structure of a JA tanru work again? Because this is the place structure you seemed to be using: selte'i =3D x1 is/are the only one(s) with property x2 among x3 But this is the place structure of xagrai: xagrai =3D t1=3Dx1 is the best among set/range t4 for x2 by standard x3. (FWIW, gi'a would have eliminated this question.) mu'o mi'e .latros. 2011/5/3 Jorge Llamb=EDas > 2011/5/3 Luke Bergen : > > .u'i do tcetce cizra lo jbopre .i pe'i so'e lo nintadni cu cusku lo > glibau > > befi lu mi nintadni .iku'i mi jinvi lo du'u mi cilre tai traji sutra va= 'o > lo > > nu mi pilno lo jbobau ca lo nu mi cilre li'u > > pe'i lo nu pilno ca lo nu cilre cu xagrai ja selte'i ji'asai lo ka > cilre lo bangu kei lo tadji > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --485b3988adc9d46c7504a269c276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Umm, how does the place structure of a JA tanru work again? Because this is= the place structure you seemed to be using:
selte'i =3D x1 is/are t= he only one(s) with property x2 among x3
But this is the place structure= of xagrai:
xagrai =3D=A0 t1=3Dx1 is the best among set/range t4 for x2 by standard x3.=

(FWIW, gi'a would have eliminated this question.)

mu'= ;o mi'e .latros.

2011/5/3 Jorge Llamb= =EDas <jjllamb= ias@gmail.com>
2011/5/3 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>:
> .u'i do tcetce cizra lo jbopre .i pe'i so= 9;e lo nintadni cu cusku lo glibau
> befi lu mi nintadni .iku'i mi jinvi lo du'u mi cilre tai traji= sutra va'o lo
> nu mi pilno lo jbobau ca lo nu mi cilre li'u

pe'i lo nu pilno ca lo nu cilre cu xagrai ja selte'i ji'a= sai lo ka
cilre lo bangu kei lo tadji

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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