From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCB-4TuBBoEg0X8rg@googlegroups.com Wed May 04 04:50:44 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QHabD-0003Py-7h; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:44 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf3262838qwh.16 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3OchGRys1Ie9mFtZCoYnNPaMRSu7whjrrSagZEKvJys=; b=E4y++nNFJNMMJhDpMQOksmpH9+69ke17VS3uWSvxTGl8mknQcfh+bmCegsjBcIjk/E vM9MpDODKhWbBQ+KW6QmPjplvTviX/uDkW9La1tCLBDb/oFy+cNQ0IZ5FQd5mxXq0Ppa abOKRVzrOalmQ3FSSumQzYeuu5Ik9XYAE/hAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Z8Foc2+5AR27E9kag7mktXpXmDQqISUK+KaL3tTVtR77YPwYXaMAeE+iW28Mdp2OZH PM5pO+b1PNaSj+6i2fRSd0/cXdMlfpE4XO6T23Ww9zqSgIxEMz+G23x/EUoh9bDNRyRF VmbLpeQ5HMdjAZzsy8WTorjEZW+3wQburQDlo= Received: by 10.229.119.4 with SMTP id x4mr82318qcq.12.1304509825471; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.229.132 with SMTP id ji4ls369692qcb.1.gmail; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.17.210 with SMTP id t18mr59673qca.11.1304509824645; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.17.210 with SMTP id t18mr59672qca.11.1304509824625; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.220.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19si186879qco.11.2011.05.04.04.50.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.171; Received: by mail-vx0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 40so1319236vxc.30 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.93.2 with SMTP id cq2mr669239vdb.49.1304509824329; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.185.167 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 04:50:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <347891.1785.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201105021943.53482.jezuch@interia.pl> <737349.12591.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <770130C4-1AF0-4060-AC2A-F209952E0AA9@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:50:24 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Ian Johnson wrote= : > Umm, how does the place structure of a JA tanru work again? The tertau rules the place structure. The other components of the tanru have no effect on the place structure, they can only affect the meaning. >Because this is > the place structure you seemed to be using: > selte'i =3D x1 is/are the only one(s) with property x2 among x3 > But this is the place structure of xagrai: > xagrai =3D=A0 t1=3Dx1 is the best among set/range t4 for x2 by standard x= 3. Right, "xagrai ja selte'i" inherits the place structure of "selte'i". > (FWIW, gi'a would have eliminated this question.) Yes, but in that case only the first sumti would have been shared. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.