From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCM5IXuBBoEhDNheQ@googlegroups.com Wed May 04 08:34:56 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QHe6B-0002Ye-RD; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:56 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf2019896wwb.16 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=IOGY1bQh0nd0a3I4ibZyiiKsnGNZ3zsFlE9ebcayu68=; b=5v+fEDV0vvA/Rd1ZeZEUmN8Cfh0ZfFdxR1y7eZaD+bFdGPwDHjMGb725kp05+rWMsj sfkoFA3qx/nf/UewDShWIBTkjAOBQ8m8NrN9hSlZ8Bep3pxvqTLJpI81bVXjdnH/B3yw u5VQAtWgNVW4j5TfyyR5oUWHTcBXcz2bEvjh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=z3O4ytpnGzZconSLF9X7majaJuwWcxmUAt4q3SQqZgrHOECflXzO6DAUtPkkm2YzmM cdBHrM4S84smsFEai24eZskp8gFa/843HmNFn5ljMTAFza+iSxcwQojYgnyHOhB6Z19g mMpp/UCYElrrTAnpaFKDWqI76gIQPWaNO5Q7I= Received: by 10.216.211.92 with SMTP id v70mr450599weo.15.1304523276944; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.25.139 with SMTP id z11ls13852eez.0.gmail; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.0.145 with SMTP id 17mr192347eeb.46.1304523275418; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.0.145 with SMTP id 17mr192346eeb.46.1304523275362; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l15si438507eei.7.2011.05.04.08.34.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.181; Received: by mail-ey0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 5so438615eyh.40 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.15.163 with SMTP id f35mr542378eef.210.1304523275073; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.126.147 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:34:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201105021943.53482.jezuch@interia.pl> <737349.12591.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <770130C4-1AF0-4060-AC2A-F209952E0AA9@yahoo.com> <20110504130615.GA21885@alice.local> <20110504133954.GB21885@alice.local> <720969.7604.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:34:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6542d9869780c04a274fef0 --0016e6542d9869780c04a274fef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learn something new every day. ki'e .djan. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, John E. Clifford wro= te: > A contest about who has the biggest dick; in general, a pointless display > of bravado ( cf. Pissing contest, uromachy) > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 4, 2011, at 9:17, Luke Bergen wrote: > > I'm clear on {lo} but now I'm unclear on the meaning of "phallomachy" so > we'll call this message a wash. > > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, John E Clifford < > kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> May we infer from the fact that this thread has turned into a phallomach= y >> about Lojban skills that everyone is clear that {lo} descriptions do not >> have implicit external quantifiers and that {no} wouldn't be an appropri= ate >> one even it they did? >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Luke Bergen < lukeabergen@gmail.com> >> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Wed, May 4, 2011 8:43:56 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers >> >> .u'i mi ba nelci lo nu kelci .i pe'u ko cfagau >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:39 AM, .alyn.post. < >> alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >> >>> dai zo'o ma'a kakne lo nu finti lo pluja lojbo bende .ijonai kelci >>> lu ko jimpe ba'e ti li'u noi zvati la .xedbig. >>> >>> .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. >>> >>> On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:17:49AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: >>> > .u'i va'o lo nu lo sidbo cu vajni mi kei mi sampu cusku mu'i lo nu >>> mi na >>> > djica lo nu toljimpe cu'u mi .ija'ebo mi so'aroi sampu cusku >>> .ija'ebo mi >>> > la'a masno cirko lo ka kakne lo nu pluja cusku .u'i .uinai >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:06 AM, .alyn.post. >>> > <[1] alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.or= g> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > ni'o .ue.ui mi capu jimpe di'u pe la xorxes .e la cribe .i mi pu >>> > pilno lo jbovlaste lo nu sisku lo se valsi po'o so'u valsi .i zo= 'o >>> > do simlu lo ka cusku lo sampu lojbo >>> > >>> > .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. >>> > On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 08:06:50PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD mi na djica lo nu cusku lo du'u srera lo n= u cilre ca lo nu >>> tadni >>> > .i mi >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ji'a bangu pilno ca lo nu mi cilre .iji'ab= o mi ba'e caca'a >>> cilre >>> > .u'i >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2011/5/3 Jorge Llamb=EF=BF=BDas <[1][2] >>> jjllambias@gmail.com> >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2011/5/3 Luke Bergen <[2][3] >>> lukeabergen@gmail.com>: >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > .u'i do tcetce cizra lo jbopre= .i pe'i so'e lo nintadni >>> cu >>> > cusku lo >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD glibau >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > befi lu mi nintadni .iku'i mi = jinvi lo du'u mi cilre tai >>> traji >>> > sutra >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD va'o lo >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > nu mi pilno lo jbobau ca lo nu= mi cilre li'u >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD pe'i lo nu pilno ca lo nu cilre = cu xagrai ja selte'i >>> ji'asai lo >>> > ka >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD cilre lo bangu kei lo tadji >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD mu'o mi'e xorxes >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message becaus= e you are subscribed to >>> the >>> > Google >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Groups "lojban" group. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send emai= l to >>> > [3][4] lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, = send email to >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [4][5] >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this gro= up at >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5][6] >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because you are = subscribed to the >>> Google >>> > Groups >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email to [7] >>> lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, send email= to >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [8] >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group at >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [9] >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>> > > >>> > > References >>> > > >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Visible links >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 1. mailto:[10] jjlla= mbias@gmail.com >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2. mailto:[11] luke= abergen@gmail.com >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 3. mailto:[12] >>> lojban@googlegroups.com >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 4. mailto:[13]lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googleg= roups.com >>> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 5. 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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.co= m> wrote:
A contest abo= ut who has the biggest dick; in general, a pointless display of bravado ( c= f. Pissing contest, uromachy)

Sent from my iPad

On Ma= y 4, 2011, at 9:17, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

=
I'm clear on {lo} but now I'm unclear on the meaning of "pha= llomachy" so we'll call this message a wash.

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
May we infer from the fact tha= t this thread has turned into a phallomachy about Lojban skills that everyo= ne is clear that {lo} descriptions do not have implicit external quantifier= s and that {no} wouldn't be an appropriate one even it they did?

= From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 8:43:56 AM

Subject: Re: [lojban] xo= rlo and default quantifiers

.u'i mi ba nelci lo nu kelci .i pe'u ko cfagau

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:39 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
dai zo'o ma'a kakne lo nu finti lo p= luja lojbo bende .ijonai kelci
lu ko jimpe ba'e ti li'u noi zvati la .xedbig.

.i mu'o mi'e .alyn.

On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:17:49AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0.u'i va'o lo nu lo sidbo cu vajni mi kei mi sampu= cusku mu'i lo nu mi na
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0djica lo nu toljimpe cu'u mi .ija'ebo mi so'a= roi sampu cusku .ija'ebo mi
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0la'a masno cirko lo ka kakne lo nu pluja cusku .u'= ;i .uinai
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:06 AM, .alyn.post.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2011/5/3 Jorge Llam= b=EF=BF=BDas <[1][2]jjllambias@gmail.com>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2011/5/3 Luke B= ergen <[2][3]lukeabergen@gmail.com>:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > .u= 9;i do tcetce cizra lo jbopre .i pe'i so'e lo nintadni cu
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cusku lo
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD glibau
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > befi lu mi= nintadni .iku'i mi jinvi lo du'u mi cilre tai traji
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sutra
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD va'o lo
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > nu mi piln= o lo jbobau ca lo nu mi cilre li'u
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD pe'i lo nu = pilno ca lo nu cilre cu xagrai ja selte'i ji'asai lo
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ka
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD cilre lo bangu = kei lo tadji
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD mu'o mi'= ;e xorxes
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