From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDruJvuBBoEg1luYA@googlegroups.com Sun May 08 11:10:01 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QJ8QX-0003JV-EH; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:10:00 -0700 Received: by vxk20 with SMTP id 20sf3957568vxk.16 for ; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=5jC2qMYmRWnuOAiGUH96B6twaZG03HvAQ6BSEdWahts=; b=4vv3zD9QfiZ5geme6De/JgAKqwl7OX7NxleDvCNpy2RKGN57VKTptpsaD1PnW7Cg5P v8ZdXchqnWxOawp7lkL9X0UZ83EhSmwZ5X5+rh6AuR+ucpWmXUTAGGKku3+whvz0707z sPsQFtHwvqN2csRxxa43benWiyJKQoAY7fMgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=IE9fdKC4x8CnYeNaAJoOmXsqouwRu4ND4TF/nKaGjvkw3Gv/oFenl53fDqlyeW7K3X 0oC/HqAGD0JVjpPlmPat0rKmuo2+vM2fUrWL8O50h7WOr+B9v9YxVGq8DJWQS9VINkgN CGLhtOR+oZDYmqTMv6ZAhtNf4PdKIoo3Pm3gY= Received: by 10.220.182.70 with SMTP id cb6mr585111vcb.36.1304878187614; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.180.165 with SMTP id dp5ls1350879vdc.3.gmail; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.161 with SMTP id dt1mr1047660vdb.8.1304878186882; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.161 with SMTP id dt1mr1047659vdb.8.1304878186876; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f171.google.com ([209.85.220.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k17si352073vcp.2.2011.05.08.11.09.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.171; Received: by vxc40 with SMTP id 40so7239044vxc.2 for ; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.179.131 with SMTP id dg3mr1283571vdc.9.1304878186583; Sun, 08 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.185.167 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2011 11:09:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 15:09:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "to think that ..." From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM, tijlan wrote: > > "X thinks that Y likes Z" > > as an example of ternary (three-argument) relation. That isn't how "to > think that ..." is commonly represented with a Lojban selbri: You can always define a selbri in Lojban with any place structure you want. For example: nelji'i: ko'a jinvi lo du'u ko'e nelci ko'i kei ko'e jo'u ko'i (ko'o) "x1 thinks that x2 likes x3 (on grounds x4)" mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.