From lojban+bncCNip7NKiFBCohPHvBBoEYjGTLA@googlegroups.com Fri Jun 17 23:14:14 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QXonK-0006mC-FQ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:14 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf2159465pzk.16 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=b/YFt8UfVb1A1K0v/dhCxqyLyrhis0EgxShsasuAQZg=; b=0J3zFytmEc9d7NQXtlGqyP2eulsepnA0HrksGyJCcC0pNM/hXyitQv03YFCXkEE6Kl F9ubWS8qTLTAN4bSHLsSlSY3VIkoEfZb5ZkGstJWyRA+HO3ouyzmWHiwq8vCtcGvZzBT CLbp87PUCd82zFDBKsf0VU85tXKLsUbiGG+9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=aW5NwMHrKlr1kQ0L6/lOnaBnRwcMxIUvEXoo/9pKbTFBu8xxtJsFWKBilpqs+2umK8 uFUQjXyPQPLW/h/clLpNub01OgTWbtY6cna/t20v+jFGvH0DhaQyIPKkOpof93l67Z0K 1cCb8gjCUjkoZT5pGdTQFrVKpG5FHIdhSuZ+o= Received: by 10.68.33.199 with SMTP id t7mr254787pbi.18.1308377640764; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.40.9 with SMTP id t9ls614576pbk.2.gmail; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.13.103 with SMTP id g7mr495825pbc.21.1308377640019; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.13.103 with SMTP id g7mr495824pbc.21.1308377640004; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f170.google.com (mail-pv0-f170.google.com [74.125.83.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8si7346675pbc.0.2011.06.17.23.13.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of carbon.evolve@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.170; Received: by pvh10 with SMTP id 10so2628183pvh.15 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:13:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.7.234 with SMTP id m10mr1416185pba.94.1308377637798; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.46.41 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27d8a568-6d8a-4bbe-a79a-bf0716205826@e16g2000vbq.googlegroups.com> References: <27d8a568-6d8a-4bbe-a79a-bf0716205826@e16g2000vbq.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:13:57 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Proposing an alternative Arabic orthography for Lojban From: Saeid Al-Wazzan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: carbon.evolve@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of carbon.evolve@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=carbon.evolve@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5215bb955430a04a5f6687c --bcaec5215bb955430a04a5f6687c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Muhammad. Thank you for making this! This orthography is very concise. I think the way you chose to represent {e= } and {o} is clever. I have one comment about the choice of character for {j} and {g}. {g} is mapped to {=CC} and {j} is mapped to {=8D}. In Arabic, however, the = {j} sound is produced by {=CC}, I think it might be more natural to swap the mappings for these two characters. I'd like to put this on the wiki under the Arabic section, if possible sinc= e it could be useful for Arabic speakers who want to get an idea of what lojban sounds like. Regards, Saeid --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --bcaec5215bb955430a04a5f6687c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Muhammad. Thank you for making this!
This orthog= raphy is very concise. I think the way you chose to represent {e} and {o} i= s clever.

I have one comment about the choice of character for {j} a= nd {g}.
{g} is mapped to {=CC} and {j} is mapped to {=8D}. In Arabic, however, the = {j} sound is produced by {=CC}, I think it might be more natural to swap t= he mappings for these two characters.

I'd like to put this on th= e wiki under the Arabic section, if possible since it could be useful for A= rabic speakers who want to get an idea of what lojban sounds like.

Regards,
Saeid

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