From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhCjo_TvBBoENsxFfA@googlegroups.com Sat Jun 18 13:59:28 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QY2c2-0003Tg-AP; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:28 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf5444025fxm.16 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ND6bYlczpZe0NnZPCi9Qh1Lr1Vz6WeRfhWqAeJk/rWc=; b=IpKkppuu1ZRFUN+2V7f2NIPF1X4QagUEHVAz5dcoyy1iYm7kjOscZEEzUCpOAnxxTB P5Hxq5jd1JfO+JWtdTYPHU0R04IbCNhKspH0hzaI/JypaFWK/ugn+ptG9rz2/gda7j2f +2L2DSYX819fJcc8BqQfIKrIii7k5+a7v7N0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=h81H5ht57cPZZuGCKLu4bN0E/yN2U0I1Ue8X6CjH9J3iPQxYXIiRRBaxXeQ/7iQpAA t16HwVYO8HOpaHhP/j4jPnWul/O9RGvu/WrJbaq/r3BQ4q0/gYhvesc6ygXmmOvyTHlT ajicGsgFNwViqMxB2TW8StaNIjAxwWk5IA4Ls= Received: by 10.223.25.214 with SMTP id a22mr732569fac.27.1308430755733; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.38.88 with SMTP id a24ls1557499bke.1.gmail; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.85.21 with SMTP id m21mr308156bkl.22.1308430754530; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.85.21 with SMTP id m21mr308155bkl.22.1308430754502; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3si2026809bkb.0.2011.06.18.13.59.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so1462944bwz.19 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.17.148 with SMTP id s20mr2625429bka.133.1308430753181; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.50.152 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <860642.20311.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:59:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554070e41b06c04a602c6aa --bcaec554070e41b06c04a602c6aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To be fair, the number of lojban utterances is countable... 2011/6/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, John E Clifford > wrote: > > A case > > could be made, I think, that all and only properties are referred to by > > ka-expressions. > > "Only", perhaps. "All", I doubt. The number of ka-expressions is > countable, while the number of properties is not. Perhaps you are > allowing the same ka-expression to be used to refer to more than one > property. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 Alex R --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --bcaec554070e41b06c04a602c6aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To be fair, the number of lojban utterances is countable...

2011/6/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> =A0=A0A case
> could be made, I think, that all and only properties are referred to b= y
> ka-expressions.

"Only", perhaps. "All", I doubt. The number of ka= -expressions is
countable, while the number of properties is not. Perhaps you are
allowing the same ka-expression to be used to refer to more than one
property.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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