From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDH65rvBBoEB92-1w@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 01 14:57:41 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QRtQ1-0007Nz-CW; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:41 -0700 Received: by vxk20 with SMTP id 20sf130675vxk.16 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=hKTMBp3TGdB4F3gTR2EDnmpPaj0L+szT/4gTdxi404c=; b=SgdzDxH9Og/g753yp923TBPu1lkCkZnSAgZbGnfBdOt+gRm5Q923XRMi4C1eVQ7hYB eG3MRqT972uEWH56mzGkD2PNGEjavCPSGwm/oSG/p5WXZrTRz0ZE0S/veymfzd9ggpi2 HdENPRJjPXxXelAHUTSgvUuZsEmK/oSorqyVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=QyfbJf/4cT2lbWdLScEe2QXehSBQkzNiEXps6UItkbf7vOoE/B8u7c50jc16Cg1o0S G+vKj4Fr0KAEgaswBNRTK/8ULQ2RvuX1uSxqr0644ruxAeba2JkKcdDA3SL5pG1wVlBh GLAbmXYlMXjU6i7u6F291bcdnjE8lva+8dItM= Received: by 10.220.19.149 with SMTP id a21mr1428vcb.12.1306965447533; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6ls405877vdc.0.gmail; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.107.226 with SMTP id hf2mr901133vdb.26.1306965446866; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.107.226 with SMTP id hf2mr901132vdb.26.1306965446855; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cy4si1190479vdc.1.2011.06.01.14.57.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.174; Received: by mail-vx0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 39so220612vxi.19 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.42 with SMTP id dx10mr2784802vdb.153.1306965446559; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.183.129 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201105312351.56777.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201105311203.46300.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201105312351.56777.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 18:57:26 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] sedu'o no natfe... From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > The original IIRR is "As far as we know, we have never had > an undetected error." "As far as we know" sounds like an evidential, so maybe it's better to handle it with a sei-phrase than by adding a term to the predicate. Maybe something like "sei do'anai mi'a djuno". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.