From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCugvjvBBoE0O-SRg@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 19 07:01:31 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QYIZ6-0004S7-2S; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:30 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf1504763vws.16 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=2DZNfegZeoTGvO8RR1QzmzH+S34BiKm+b9v1G4tWVWc=; b=EAckWLgZQb+s20YxW67N5u+faAg1ILFK1JBETkmrua5bDzvTYaApElef3AZmDFjmcD hAI5HyhTsrnIDVilUnEdtb271Nn5JECs62C+9xUpZLZwN8TCmFFeZpufOF1dQm6bH/OJ JDlps/+xIkyNYdyW776obcylsK+WOeUAJsSZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=MO3p+AbTtyNjU1xR2sOHtvqzekIPrpeorS8OBJiVDeHH26OXrtcA53sKusTMYNcRVS I2qH/FWf6eCfmfc2cjx7F7zLPGTIwTtYUDlgh/L8hw5QVHPiSmXvsFPgLjfMRZlttMAV yJI1+D9CsbFAjHvgcryRmScVqC+JKMiZSbqqk= Received: by 10.220.187.75 with SMTP id cv11mr205855vcb.31.1308492078045; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6ls2006782vdc.0.gmail; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6mr1532245vdc.14.1308492077550; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6mr1532244vdc.14.1308492077538; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jq3si3815209vdb.3.2011.06.19.07.01.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.54; Received: by mail-vw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 18so379699vws.13 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.110.234 with SMTP id id10mr2149565vdb.303.1308492077397; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.234 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:01:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <860642.20311.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:01:17 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > To be fair, the number of lojban utterances is countable... It depends on what you mean by utterance. If I say "coi" and you say "coi", do those count as two utterances or as one and the same? The number of utterance types is countable, the number of potential utterance tokens is uncountable, the number of actual utterance tokens is probably not just countable but finite. But we were comparing ka-expressions and properties, so I'm not sure I see how the number of utterances comes in. the number of ka-expression types is countable, and the number of properties is uncountable. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.