From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEOS6nO8EGgS9i7dN@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 01 22:21:55 2011 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QS0Lu-0003jR-EE; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:21:55 -0700 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf215797pxi.16 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:21:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uiC4BHpqFmsBODtHWdEf7GScjUVrSbj12YAjOEFTnvk=; b=DFx9sOvx01L265y1jJNcjt9PTVhBdTX8dfVMyn2r6bhjj2TobiAoFs70lboSp4/MmH VE2Rlf7um/stswo2dNvzSBOJvKc6AeD9lU8W9FHddN4XkczQoZ/uuVKO+liK9ne3eySQ +kjU4wJpZ2BDDN5yKrlQJy7HaEHBkm+KwwA+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=sszebG4hVi+CbkeeuFAJBX4RIjjqmwk0IF+ppJNYKse0i7KrMnqSk6G9MtgDz706LC Otg14hIWdR2tpKCf8hlGlgKf4JjgOARbqKBX10wsxBdBFWyTs3mRg+DLbNJIvvbZEO9m 2xwHXEQspeGSOSlUzFXWAVUwm93Q3G8KSl7WA= Received: by 10.68.31.168 with SMTP id b8mr17343pbi.30.1306991972815; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.39.41 with SMTP id m9ls403384pbk.2.gmail; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.59.232 with SMTP id c8mr55700pbr.65.1306991972135; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.59.232 with SMTP id c8mr55699pbr.65.1306991972124; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si677942pbi.2.2011.06.01.22.19.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QS0Jf-0003dG-BT for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:19:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 22:19:31 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [nomik] pa mo'o mu moi javni Message-ID: <20110602051931.GF11152@digitalkingdom.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 2011/6/1 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis >=20 > > .i da'a no lo so'u balvi javni cu clacizyjvovau > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 01:27:20PM -0400, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >=20 > to .i lo pluka be mi ku se zmadu va'o da'i lo du'u de'u se krasi lo'u .i = no > lo le'u .e nai zo'e toi >=20 > ( I would have liked it better if the statement began {.i no lo}=20 Which completely reverses the meaning; "all" vs. "none"; you caught that, yeah? > (Comments on my lojban expression of this welcome) ) Good, cuz I waz gonna. :) I actually pretty much figured it out, which is a good sign I think. I prefer using causals for this sort of construct, though; mi zmadu se pluka se mu'i lo nu da'i de'u se krasi li'o As a style comment, the ".e nai zo'e" seems pretty pointless; either say what you mean (".e nai lo'u da'a no lo le'u") or skip it. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.