From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD7y_7vBBoENv7M0Q@googlegroups.com Mon Jun 20 12:56:58 2011 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QYkab-0002ty-01; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:58 -0700 Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22sf1613825pvc.16 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/QyGaIMz7JUzieWhtyppdwk0kjn0qZqat6QA3/RxrAY=; b=BxBvla3WkqKXl9YEsAbzhfxIrw4smJyWpszvhIlY+dy5312jBabM8HwhVq5i6GSKw7 yBlwU4vweV147R9TJR0MhraETR4XPRMoAAGl8jBRi+efZh3o6q71fqFnqWdVrDsvCoWR RJYgpT99juMU4mx1Ofbl2vmpLYGn1rek8lcTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ANITXa9YFmJVmTzb37+zag1yumQsAedxpEY7IAWq3lkmXtzWI7k8C6L7RfXW+pSNnt 1CF+VmTXsjAMbJJjH1if5+bjVDamRuZUMbr3J3ZmQxvtJ1+wzVJD4faNOEH87Wsu432B IEB1d9gpZjMt1y0cLIzl7wHo88yzIs4iw5SS8= Received: by 10.68.8.41 with SMTP id o9mr962621pba.22.1308599803289; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.15.3 with SMTP id t3ls1625020pbc.1.gmail; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.24.3 with SMTP id q3mr1040819pbf.85.1308599802657; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.24.3 with SMTP id q3mr1040818pbf.85.1308599802606; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8si12586612pbc.0.2011.06.20.12.56.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.54; Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so6532164pzk.27 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.63.233 with SMTP id j9mr2209097pbs.407.1308599802405; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.59.194 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:56:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/6/20 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : > On 20 June 2011 16:30, Michael Turniansky wrote: >> Yes, "xukau" returns a strictly binary value. It's not the >> exisitence of the "kau" per se that makes it binary. It's that the >> answer to "xu" is only binary, so "xukau" can only be a binary value. > > Oh, fine. Then I wonder how do {ka broda} and {ka makau jei ce'u broda} > compare to each other. Would you say they are close? The same? > > A nice thing is that {jei} has a x2. I don't think you are saying what you think you are trying to say (although what you said is grammatical). "jei" is an abstractor, like ka. It takes a bridi and makes it into a selbri, who meaning is "..is the truth value of [bridi]", just like ka is "...is the property of [bridiness]-ness" --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.