From lojban+bncCIfp7ILVEBDL9v7vBBoEq0P9qA@googlegroups.com Mon Jun 20 14:27:54 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f56.google.com ([209.85.210.56]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QYm0a-000569-VW; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:54 -0700 Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33sf4073421pzk.1 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tpRv7pzDnL9aGuEPsn4zsjY6MT8j2+0kIVJ4XZuNHl4=; b=pUa4+OuwWavZpu76hF956wcDE1qHw8CqXW6LZ4g3AP9r9Yb5BT45R7J730H9UddhOZ B0YUFdMFssRPSdK+7XG2EfAodiV/0O7Uae12OnPFoMa0WC0LPtpTKCGB3NZg5zRTVf0c 5u/oXha2WxD+Cmekggex8UevvnQOadWFjbLAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=K6IpHs+Ih/JaOl2vRw8/YLPR69M2O+yC9zgJDC7CGUpeorg2O1N4ZXsX81D8mgjbg9 017qOcTzcTjwQY4TTthSgPoYHzVa616CsF40K5xVFhfXUh8VZQL3ooW6aSAhEMp1FEn3 uddivtWZK3pJwHfWIdcMZEvyaUWxiNLYMo18I= Received: by 10.142.208.10 with SMTP id f10mr796078wfg.5.1308605259267; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.31.67 with SMTP id y3ls299919pbh.3.gmail; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.43.102 with SMTP id v6mr990828pbl.79.1308605257965; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.43.102 with SMTP id v6mr990827pbl.79.1308605257941; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com (mail-pz0-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si12721506pbi.2.2011.06.20.14.27.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.47; Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so5206634pzk.34 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.9.8 with SMTP id v8mr2520203pba.279.1308605257773; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.48.102 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:27:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:27:37 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20 June 2011 16:56, Michael Turniansky wrote: > 2011/6/20 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : >> On 20 June 2011 16:30, Michael Turniansky wrote: >>> Yes, "xukau" returns a strictly binary value. It's not the >>> exisitence of the "kau" per se that makes it binary. It's that the >>> answer to "xu" is only binary, so "xukau" can only be a binary value. >> >> Oh, fine. Then I wonder how do {ka broda} and {ka makau jei ce'u broda} >> compare to each other. Would you say they are close? The same? >> >> A nice thing is that {jei} has a x2. > > =A0I don't think you are saying what you think you are trying to say > (although what you said is grammatical). =A0"jei" is an abstractor, like > ka. =A0It takes a bridi and makes it into a selbri, who meaning is "..is > the truth value of [bridi]", just like ka is "...is the property of > [bridiness]-ness" I am pretty aware of what {jei} is. How do you understand {ka makau jei ce'u broda}? > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.