From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhCXk4bwBBoE_j1isg@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 21 23:20:23 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZGnS-0005n9-37; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:23 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf719624fxm.16 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZGCu43uy5Ds6DpHAFfdQiHGCUwfZUAyrHGfzdayyMCU=; b=2cZVLpF2EjyIr6w0zJoTecSLEX7/QGb3V/E2zeaGGmEiKWplcnTf0wbB2N126xuUme Hdz6FeIE1VjIlrxJQ8jWN9vjUpIUn1prvx7SBL838eLEd+3IDNBMQDNxz19Y4vh4WBOj qlznEMA0DgWhANDXfMZ20idUDsV8rNQ09tlfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=5DzC80efJbhcYuv/FrEJwIY8K16yfBrCJ53qn62rK/vRACwkd+BV3rkKZXxVOxMfX8 V28JSGk9hxQfuIOzkfvdyPO2Aqrls9WsrgvgnH6MJahq0owrb3V3icmRzLt2TMveNZn1 opfuRTh+S57sbISZ3AjLSuTtaFNoVaM9RrEjw= Received: by 10.223.58.212 with SMTP id i20mr32633fah.18.1308723607505; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.38.88 with SMTP id a24ls109299bke.1.gmail; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.180.5 with SMTP id bs5mr22614bkb.8.1308723606076; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.180.5 with SMTP id bs5mr22613bkb.8.1308723606048; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3si146268bkb.0.2011.06.21.23.20.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bw0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 15so665606bwz.5 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.13.67 with SMTP id b3mr230921bka.52.1308723605791; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.50.152 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:20:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Lojban puzzles From: ".arpis." To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e3a4a1e59404a646f53d --00151750e3a4a1e59404a646f53d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Occasionally, I feel the need to sa'enai "do some lojban". Just now I think I understand what I crave in those moods, and I think "lojban puzzle" describes it pretty well. I'm not particularly coherent right now, but I'll try to explain what I'm thinking. A lojban puzzle: Has a correct (or at least best or canonical) solution; no open questions. Requires the solver to think lojbanically; anything that's mechanical is out. Is still interesting with good references; use of the CLL, jbovlaste, and the BPFK sections is almost expected. Solving one furthers one's knowledge of lojban. Anyone have any? -- .i se namkei co lojbo ni'o ru'i nai ku mi djica lo nu sa'enai lojbo zukte .i ca co'a mi ju'o cu'i jimpe lo du'u mi ma kau caidji ca lo bi'unai cnitcini .i pe'i lu se namkei co lojbo li'u velski co xamgu .i mi na ca ka'e filsmu ciski .i ku'i mi ciski troci le lojbo se namkei zo'u tu'e ni'o da drani ja xagrai ja selzau danfu .i na preti co darlu danfu ni'o sarcu fa lo du'u lojbo pensi .i na pensi claxu cumki ni'o cinri ku'i se ja'e nai tu'a lo plixau se sitna .i kanpe fi li pi so'a fe lo nu pilno cy ly ly joi la jbovlaste joi zo'ei by fy ni'o lo pu'u dafygau kei xagzenri'a zo'e poi lojbo djuno tu'u .i e'o -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00151750e3a4a1e59404a646f53d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Occasionally, I feel the need to sa'enai "do some lojban". Ju= st now I think I understand what I crave in those moods, and I think "= lojban puzzle" describes it pretty well. I'm not particularly cohe= rent right now, but I'll try to explain what I'm thinking.

A lojban puzzle:
Has a correct (or at least best or canonical) solut= ion; no open questions.
Requires the solver to think lojbanically; anyth= ing that's mechanical is out.
Is still interesting with good referen= ces; use of the CLL, jbovlaste, and the BPFK sections is almost expected. Solving one furthers one's knowledge of lojban.

Anyone have any?=

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.i se namkei co lojbo

ni'o ru'i nai ku mi = djica lo nu sa'enai lojbo zukte .i ca co'a mi ju'o cu'i jim= pe lo du'u mi ma kau caidji ca lo bi'unai cnitcini .i pe'i lu s= e namkei co lojbo li'u velski co xamgu .i mi na ca ka'e filsmu cisk= i .i ku'i mi ciski troci

le lojbo se namkei zo'u tu'e
ni'o da drani ja xagrai ja = selzau danfu .i na preti co darlu danfu
ni'o sarcu fa lo du'u lo= jbo pensi .i na pensi claxu cumki
ni'o cinri ku'i se ja'e na= i tu'a lo plixau se sitna .i kanpe fi li pi so'a fe lo nu pilno cy = ly ly joi la jbovlaste joi zo'ei by fy
ni'o lo pu'u dafygau kei xagzenri'a zo'e poi lojbo djunotu'u

.i e'o

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mu'o mi'e = .arpis.

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