From lojban+bncCO2dsrjkARDTjojwBBoEQSN0XQ@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 22 08:16:49 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZPAb-00076T-29; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:49 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf440312vws.16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=qtzgo81oUacKy0XAUDo/TIw85vVXhg0cHcFSMhA7CMc=; b=0sMUyqcphNBAg+DLWe9f3hBw0h3zP8UixnVDKyyK4MEJKmOnI2JNB6CZPSdAq1aUD3 7gG2s5rfAcuXYgSsy65J7luJKHPdVp2DDwCIeddYyAyHH03YQmi6nZIsVQvhQlpaczB7 dbj5ksZivq5M9MjChguf1a55FIetsKSaAFdMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=yud1qPxz9GqHJTVcomoGyarhCO6INqlF9pijBBXkyDb08+6NeG3F0Z2UyJ4xqRgP3Q JICQjHL0ZtecI+calF4kg3wb9Ld6rAdN0srNs55glWVrd3XdTqIb4eMOpCG2hovkDGVz 1aNwvAvbegSAvwBgHGlOJoYq6SSG+tPa7hOm8= Received: by 10.220.147.195 with SMTP id m3mr91818vcv.55.1308755795070; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6ls305168vdc.0.gmail; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6mr253862vdc.14.1308755793418; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.187.102 with SMTP id fr6mr253861vdc.14.1308755793399; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.meson.org (pi.meson.org [96.56.207.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id jq3si539165vdb.3.2011.06.22.08.16.32; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) client-ip=96.56.207.26; Received: (qmail 27130 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2011 15:16:31 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2011 15:16:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4E02074F.2080106@kli.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:16:31 -0400 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110428 Fedora/3.1.10-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles References: <3201736.829.1308753076410.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdt10> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mark@kli.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) smtp.mail=mark@kli.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050203010402080802010901" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050203010402080802010901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 06/22/2011 10:39 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > what becomes a wet thing under conditions of an event of it causing > dryness? > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Muhammad Nael > > wrote: > > /"ma binxo lo cilmo va'o / > /_lonu_ ra sudgau" > What?!/ > I think the problem here is with the underlined word; Muhammad may not be familiar with compound cmavo. Is that it? Basically, when you have a bunch of cmavo in a row, sometimes people write them with no spaces between (because after all, we can tell where they start and end by the consonant-vowel structure), especially if the cmavo-phrase is in some sense tightly linked together. So {lo nu} is a very common construction, and people sometimes like to write is as {lonu}. Yow. I wonder how this will work out in your Arabic orthography. Leaving spaces out is not such a huge deal in printed Latin letters, but it alters the shapes of things hugely in Arabic, potentially making it harder to recognize the word as a stream of cmavo. ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --------------050203010402080802010901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 06/22/2011 10:39 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
what becomes a wet thing under conditions of an event of it causing dryness?

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com> wrote:
"ma binxo lo cilmo va'o
lonu ra sudgau"
What?!


I think the problem here is with the underlined word; Muhammad may not be familiar with compound cmavo.  Is that it?

Basically, when you have a bunch of cmavo in a row, sometimes people write them with no spaces between (because after all, we can tell where they start and end by the consonant-vowel structure), especially if the cmavo-phrase is in some sense tightly linked together.  So {lo nu} is a very common construction, and people sometimes like to write is as {lonu}.

Yow.  I wonder how this will work out in your Arabic orthography.  Leaving spaces out is not such a huge deal in printed Latin letters, but it alters the shapes of things hugely in Arabic, potentially making it harder to recognize the word as a stream of cmavo.

~mark

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